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by Papist
Yesterday, 23:55
Forum: General
Topic: Is creeping treasures cheating?
Replies: 170
Views: 8367
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Re: Is creeping treasures cheating?

Papist, no. They are not both exploits. One is bug exploit the other is a game mechanic exploit or at worst a minor glitch exploit. Do you understand the irony of this statement? But anyway, we clearly aren't going to agree or even "agree to disagree", so there isn't really much point in ...
by Papist
Yesterday, 22:58
Forum: General
Topic: Is creeping treasures cheating?
Replies: 170
Views: 8367
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Re: Is creeping treasures cheating?

No, they are not the same thing and yes you can ban some and don't ban others, based on this distinction. I never said that creeping and alt d have an equal impact on the game, I said that they are both fundamentally the same thing, i.e. exploits. And understanding that they are both exploits, sayi...
by Papist
Yesterday, 19:04
Forum: General
Topic: Is creeping treasures cheating?
Replies: 170
Views: 8367
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Re: Is creeping treasures cheating?

So you are contradicting yourself or what? Anyway, treasure creeping is just exploiting a game mechanic, atl-d etc. are clear bugs. You may not agree with this but that's what constitute the garbage opinion then. I looked back, and don;t see me contradicting myself anywhere. The closest I can find ...
by Papist
Yesterday, 03:07
Forum: General
Topic: Is creeping treasures cheating?
Replies: 170
Views: 8367
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Re: Is creeping treasures cheating?

For years and years people believed that the Earth was flat. Does it make the Earth objectively flat? As I said 2 pages ago, you have a big big big issue with objectivity. It seems like it's a concept you can't understand. I don't have a problem at all with objectivity. Simply I associate my own op...
by Papist
Yesterday, 02:24
Forum: General
Topic: Is creeping treasures cheating?
Replies: 170
Views: 8367
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Re: Is creeping treasures cheating?

For years and years people believed that the Earth was flat. Does it make the Earth objectively flat? As I said 2 pages ago, you have a big big big issue with objectivity. It seems like it's a concept you can't understand. I don't have a problem at all with objectivity. Simply I associate my own op...
by Papist
21 Jun 2018, 17:55
Forum: General
Topic: Is creeping treasures cheating?
Replies: 170
Views: 8367
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Re: Is creeping treasures cheating?

When an opinion is reiterated for years it becomes objective. Um, no. Look up the definition of "objective" before you use it again. And in any case it is not some bad objection that makes it any less true. So basically what you're saying is that if enough people believe something long en...
by Papist
21 Jun 2018, 16:47
Forum: General
Topic: Is creeping treasures cheating?
Replies: 170
Views: 8367
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Re: Is creeping treasures cheating?

Nah you just completely off. There is definitely consensus on most, especially at top level. There isnt really much to debate here. I already explained why creeping is intended, go check my post. You really need to learn the difference between an objective fact and your own opinion. Anyways, back t...
by Papist
21 Jun 2018, 16:30
Forum: General
Topic: Is creeping treasures cheating?
Replies: 170
Views: 8367
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Re: Is creeping treasures cheating?

Problem is, you take it on yourself to decide what's an intended feature and what's a bug. Are you suggesting that being able to kill treasure guardians while taking no damage was an intended feature? It is not decided in theory, it is checked in the source code. So stop imagining things and ask so...
by Papist
20 Jun 2018, 20:48
Forum: General
Topic: Is creeping treasures cheating?
Replies: 170
Views: 8367
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Re: Is creeping treasures cheating?

6 The conclusions people are coming to are not the same; examples of this can be found in this very thread. On the last page even, Mitoe referred to some of the examples we were discussing as "abuses" while Kaiser called them skillful. So while there might be consensus on some exploits, t...
by Papist
20 Jun 2018, 18:41
Forum: General
Topic: Is creeping treasures cheating?
Replies: 170
Views: 8367
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Re: Is creeping treasures cheating?

the part u were wrong about is saying that we accept bugs that are old, and don't accept new bugs. like i said before, it shouldnt be about bug or no bug so much, but rather about game breaking or game improving (or at least game neutral). If something is game breaking, even if it's intended, it sh...
by Papist
20 Jun 2018, 17:37
Forum: General
Topic: Is creeping treasures cheating?
Replies: 170
Views: 8367
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Re: Is creeping treasures cheating?

There's a big difference between mechanics that allow for greater interaction with part of the game (creeping, pillarless walls), and mechanics that subvert the expected interaction with the game (Alt D, crackshot cancelling). And deciding which is which is a super subjective process, which is the ...
by Papist
20 Jun 2018, 17:30
Forum: General
Topic: Is creeping treasures cheating?
Replies: 170
Views: 8367
Flag: United States of America

Re: Is creeping treasures cheating?

Problem is, you take it on yourself to decide what's an intended feature and what's a bug. Are you suggesting that being able to kill treasure guardians while taking no damage was an intended feature? that's just wrong. Alt-d has been around as long as the other bugs, and its considered cheating by...
by Papist
20 Jun 2018, 16:19
Forum: General
Topic: Is creeping treasures cheating?
Replies: 170
Views: 8367
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Re: Is creeping treasures cheating?

On one side there's creeping, which is something everyone has always been doing, plus is actually the only realistic way to take a decent amount of treasures without dying. On the other side there is alt d, which literally just kills the explo mechanic (you're supposed to either wait until 100 hp o...
by Papist
18 Jun 2018, 01:47
Forum: General
Topic: Steam
Replies: 5
Views: 125
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Re: Steam

Is it possible to get a non steam version of the game? I prefer to play directly from my PC rather than have to be online with steam. Thanks When using the Steam version, the only time you need to be online is when you're downloading the game. Once it's on your PC you can play it offline. If you ar...
by Papist
11 Jun 2018, 01:21
Forum: EGT Season 1 Playoffs
Topic: ESOC Grand Tour Season 1 Playoffs
Replies: 45
Views: 1510
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Re: ESOC Grand Tour Season 1 Playoffs

Cool. I like this event format, overall. In the future, however, I hope it will be done in addition to, rather than in replacement of, actual tournaments. That's the best way to encourage play and promote the competitive scene. Good work and thanks to everyone involved, in any way. It's good to hav...
by Papist
09 Jun 2018, 22:39
Forum: Strategy
Topic: Jannisary attack
Replies: 45
Views: 1363
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Re: Jannisary attack

I want to add that, although janissary's raw melee attack is quite high, they are rather weak against cavalry due to them having a *2 multiplier while other musk units have *3 or even *3.5. I recently slaughtered a batch of ~25 age II janissaries with like 18 age III uhlans while having 11 uhlans l...
by Papist
09 Jun 2018, 15:56
Forum: Strategy
Topic: Jannisary attack
Replies: 45
Views: 1363
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Re: Jannisary attack

I want to add that, although janissary's raw melee attack is quite high, they are rather weak against cavalry due to them having a *2 multiplier while other musk units have *3 or even *3.5. I recently slaughtered a batch of ~25 age II janissaries with like 18 age III uhlans while having 11 uhlans l...
by Papist
09 Jun 2018, 15:50
Forum: General
Topic: Is there any way to disable chat in games?
Replies: 25
Views: 651
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Re: Is there any way to disable chat in games?

I'm pretty sure there's a way to disable chat in the game options. But maybe that just applies to in-game chat.
by Papist
07 Jun 2018, 20:03
Forum: Real-life Discussion
Topic: Off Topic PSA
Replies: 0
Views: 87
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Off Topic PSA

Hi all. There’s been some questionable posting in Off Topic lately and on behalf of the Community Team, I want to take some time to respond to it. First of all, thank you to everyone who tries to create quality threads and posts. Forums like ESOC would not be able to survive without you, and everyon...
by Papist
07 Jun 2018, 20:02
Forum: ESOC Talk
Topic: Off Topic PSA
Replies: 0
Views: 74
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Off Topic PSA

Hi all. There’s been some questionable posting in Off Topic lately and on behalf of the Community Team, I want to take some time to respond to it. First of all, thank you to everyone who tries to create quality threads and posts. Forums like ESOC would not be able to survive without you, and everyon...
by Papist
06 Jun 2018, 19:12
Forum: Strategy
Topic: Vil distribution for uhlan production
Replies: 22
Views: 421
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Re: Vil distribution for uhlan production

gibson wrote:Yea sw on coin vils on food is right, maybe if you don’t get steel traps you’ll overgather a lot of gold

Ah, that explains it
by Papist
06 Jun 2018, 17:06
Forum: Strategy
Topic: Vil distribution for uhlan production
Replies: 22
Views: 421
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Vil distribution for uhlan production

I heard someone say once that you have all SW on coin and all regular vils on food, but whenever do this, I end up massively overgathering coin. What's a good distribution for producing uhlan, while keeping the option of aging open?
by Papist
06 Jun 2018, 17:04
Forum: General
Topic: AoE3 makes me really upset
Replies: 66
Views: 1485
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Re: AoE3 makes me really upset

As long as I can still find games easily, I really don't care what the overall numbers are (but they have remained pretty consistent over the past few years, for the record). And unless I'm playing at a weird time, I can usually fill/find a full lobby within a few minutes. It's probably harder for h...
by Papist
31 May 2018, 14:14
Forum: General
Topic: Because I just wasted an hour and half...
Replies: 94
Views: 2818
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Re: Because I just wasted an hour and half...

evilcheadar wrote:
edeholland wrote:Do you not realise we don't do witch hunts on this forum? You have been on esoc long enough to know the rules now...

They cheaters not witches

Don't be a pain
by Papist
30 May 2018, 16:18
Forum: Treaty Discussion
Topic: Nr55 Guides
Replies: 2
Views: 115
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Re: Nr55 Guides

...during the fight you never have to move your camera from one spot.


:lol:

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