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by forgrin
29 Oct 2020, 17:24
Forum: Recorded games
Topic: spain jap
Replies: 28
Views: 1073
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Re: spain jap

Port & Inca out-eco as long as you have some pik out, India wins fights age 2 after double carded camels.
by forgrin
29 Oct 2020, 15:56
Forum: Recorded games
Topic: spain jap
Replies: 28
Views: 1073
Flag: Canada

Re: spain jap

Well age 2 Japan isn't the strongest civ, they really need age 3 unit ups. I could see how Unction Spain could beat them in a drawn-out age 2 if you keep the shrine count down.
by forgrin
25 Oct 2020, 19:44
Forum: Strategy
Topic: Inca build order
Replies: 113
Views: 8421
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Re: Inca build order

He does 10 vill age up & the army arrives at 3:45 how many ppl will have macro'd for 150f 150g by that time? i mena since this strategy is known you may marco for it but forcing mm out of the player is good right? it's gonna delay w/e hes trying to do like get market ups ,or bank or w.e & y...
by forgrin
25 Oct 2020, 16:54
Forum: Strategy
Topic: Inca build order
Replies: 113
Views: 8421
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Re: Inca build order

If there's a fire in your house and it's getting kind of big, are you really gonna go for a bucket instead of the fire extinguisher? Are you saving your MM for next game? Just send them and continue on with your build, unless the rusher is 100% retarded it'll still be more efficient to just call the...
by forgrin
25 Oct 2020, 16:05
Forum: Strategy
Topic: Inca build order
Replies: 113
Views: 8421
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Re: Inca build order

I'd rather just MM because the rush is so all-in. There isn't even a warhut behind it til 600w comes in. That way you're not idled your whole transition. Can you get away without MM? Sure, but you probably lose more resources in houses, idle time, etc. Plus if Inca is smart he'll kill all your house...
by forgrin
25 Oct 2020, 15:46
Forum: Strategy
Topic: Inca build order
Replies: 113
Views: 8421
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Re: Inca build order

Challenger_Marco wrote:
Well the chasqui rush is broken lol
Yeah seems like the only real answer is to immediately hide vills when you see Inca fast age so that you can gather for MM, otherwise you're kinda screwed.
by forgrin
24 Oct 2020, 04:36
Forum: General
Topic: Is Sweden an offensive civ?
Replies: 61
Views: 2691
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Re: Is Sweden an offensive civ?

When the devs talk about "offensive" and "defensive" civs in the context of civs suited for AoE2 players vs AoE3 players, they mean civs for games lasting 20 mins (Sweden) vs games lasting for 40+ mins (Inca).
by forgrin
24 Oct 2020, 02:00
Forum: General
Topic: Does anyone have Day 1 recs?
Replies: 13
Views: 793
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Re: Does anyone have Day 1 recs?

I was supposed to but didn't realise that the game didn't auto-number new recs anymore, just overwrites your most recent one ://////
by forgrin
22 Oct 2020, 15:46
Forum: General
Topic: Steam Data
Replies: 8
Views: 458
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Re: Steam Data

Yup. Multiplayer is just a fraction of people who play any aoe game.
by forgrin
21 Oct 2020, 02:27
Forum: Strategy
Topic: Inca build orders
Replies: 85
Views: 5334
Flag: Canada

Re: Inca build orders

slightly related to this, have people figure out the optimal way to use the incan explorer for early treasures? I have been mostly agroing them into melee and then using the aoe skill to maximise damage but I'm not sure this is optimal That's pretty much it. I have gotten some lucky hits by kiting ...
by forgrin
21 Oct 2020, 01:13
Forum: Real-life Discussion
Topic: Warning to twitch streamers.
Replies: 23
Views: 731
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Re: Warning to twitch streamers.

I don't get the logic behind these kinds of takedowns. Nobody is listening to twitch streams for music (unless it's those weird COVID edm streams on the front-page). It's literally just free advertising for the record companies.
by forgrin
18 Oct 2020, 21:34
Forum: General
Topic: Swedes early DE balance
Replies: 95
Views: 5017
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Re: Swedes early DE balance

Swedes have so many cool things about them. Hakkapelits. Leather cannons. 8 bow AND 8 pike shipment in age 2. Mercenaries that unlock the unit in the saloon when you send them. All this cool civ diversity is unexplored though, because caroleans are just so broken that the optimal build order just m...
by forgrin
16 Oct 2020, 10:14
Forum: General
Topic: Day 1 Inca thoughts
Replies: 19
Views: 1090
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Re: Day 1 Inca thoughts

Their eco isn't even that good. Houses are like 13 extra vills after an age 2 card and 1775 wood invested. Extra TCs are only as good as the resources you can gather.
by forgrin
16 Oct 2020, 09:47
Forum: General
Topic: Day 1 Inca thoughts
Replies: 19
Views: 1090
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Re: Day 1 Inca thoughts

You want to win vs aggressive Inca? Send colonial militia and go fortress, there is absolutely nothing Inca can do to stop you because their bows get 1-shot and pikes 2-shot. Skirm/goon wrecks Inca. Cannon wreck Inca. You want to win vs defensive Inca? Go FF and mass cannons + whatever unit in fron...
by forgrin
16 Oct 2020, 09:40
Forum: General
Topic: Day 1 Inca thoughts
Replies: 19
Views: 1090
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Re: Day 1 Inca thoughts

@uberjz I would say stagecoach isn't that good with Inca for 2 reasons, first that their TPs cost 250w each, and secondly that their units cost mostly food so stagecoach isn't very efficient for them.
by forgrin
16 Oct 2020, 09:30
Forum: General
Topic: Day 1 Inca thoughts
Replies: 19
Views: 1090
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Re: Day 1 Inca thoughts

The 13 house maximum really bothers me, you can't get max pop in age 2 for whatever reason. Really troll on behalf of the devs.
by forgrin
16 Oct 2020, 09:21
Forum: General
Topic: Day 1 Inca thoughts
Replies: 19
Views: 1090
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Re: Day 1 Inca thoughts

@Diarouga I'd say it's more like playing bow/pike rush as Brits, where the bow/pike play is better but you have no other options.

@Rohbrot it's 0.5f/s trickle that doubles with the Chicha brewing card in age 2.
by forgrin
16 Oct 2020, 09:10
Forum: General
Topic: Day 1 Inca thoughts
Replies: 19
Views: 1090
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Re: Day 1 Inca thoughts

Oh forgot to mention, but with the explorer's AoE ability you can take certain treasures extremely fast. 3 cougars/wolves/black bears treas can be taken in ~5 sec if you get the aoe splash right.
by forgrin
16 Oct 2020, 08:43
Forum: General
Topic: Day 1 Inca thoughts
Replies: 19
Views: 1090
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Day 1 Inca thoughts

I've been playing 100% Inca today and I thought I'd update y'all on what the civ is like when you try to rush with it. First off, The deck inca_deck.png (I basically never go age 3+ so nothing there is concrete). The BO I've been doing is very straighforward and something I found almost immediately ...
by forgrin
15 Oct 2020, 23:03
Forum: General
Topic: DE list of issues
Replies: 891
Views: 39814
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Re: DE list of issues

Imperial Noob wrote:17. The iro (nat) tomahawk has a 1,5x vs heroes and 1,5x vs villagers. Not exactly a step in the right direction...
Great, nat laming is buffed :/ that must be a mistake, they probably meant to have a 0.5 multiplier but somebody can't math.
by forgrin
15 Oct 2020, 15:49
Forum: General
Topic: India wins every skirm goon war now.
Replies: 34
Views: 1746
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Re: India wins every skirm goon war now.

Kawapasaka wrote:
forgrin wrote:Tbh it might not even be OP vs skirms
you can't be serious lmao
If grens are actually strong it's gonna make all infantry ball civs a little worse.
by forgrin
15 Oct 2020, 15:47
Forum: Site Suggestions
Topic: Site Feature Changelog
Replies: 308
Views: 25432
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Re: Site Feature Changelog

@EAGLEMUT just noticed that the DE strategy board (at least) isn't showing up in "active topics." Seems like it's unlisted like off-topic.
by forgrin
15 Oct 2020, 15:31
Forum: General
Topic: India wins every skirm goon war now.
Replies: 34
Views: 1746
Flag: Canada

Re: India wins every skirm goon war now.

It's probably a bug but if grens are super meta it might be necessary, since India kinda relies on just having the bigger infantry ball in fortress. Tbh it might not even be OP vs skirms, the stacking vs HI might be too much tho.
by forgrin
15 Oct 2020, 09:09
Forum: Strategy
Topic: Inca build orders
Replies: 85
Views: 5334
Flag: Canada

Re: Inca build orders

Something I was trying out on the beta was basically a double rax xbow pike timing, seems the most reasonable of their aggro (or defensive age 2) options. BO is chop for an extra house age 1, ship 2 llamas and age with 12 vills (possible with no idle and no treas if your macro is good, ie getting al...

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