starve their hunts and multitask them is your best bet. you still get to age 3 much faster than them so camp on their next hunt with cannons

"U think that can u the lag"

I think overall what nerfs the most Japan the most on EP is the fact that maps tend to be relatively small and overall more narrowed so can easily deny the japan player shrining. Lack of water for 3 boats seems to be a nerf in some extent too. Also yeah as yurashic has mentionned Japan is a safe pi...

Lol, you overate ashi so hard, and notice why people play jap on re and not ep. You cant just make ashi vs spain and win, same with china, their cav are ranged in melee so ashi are still shooting. You also have to bear in mind those civs are so much faster than jap, like 830falcs with spain is hard ...

either way japan doesnt need to be nerfed more lol, theyre so shit on ep Japan only loses like 2-3 MUs and those aren't even too bad, Japan is not bad at all... You say this because all your 3 main civs do well vs Japan. they lose way more and most of those are awful, otto, azzy, russia, brit, chin...

the red ping disease has spread to the UK :(, this is karma for brexit

Wut, u lost a game, time to regrow my hair

7 besteiros, also 27 attack seems too much, that's prob in age III. They are good anyway. Funny fact you get 11 of them with intervention. Japan is not bad at all on EP. Objectively they still win at least half of MUs (prob more). Personally speaking, they also have lot of potential if played as yo...

either way japan doesnt need to be nerfed more lol, theyre so shit on ep

umeu wrote:Eh they dont? Thats a bug then, cuz normal xbowmen have it. They also have bonus vs heavy inf

The bows from cons have different stats

Lunatic_Fringe wrote:

Jerom wrote:Hey the beisteiros are not shitty at all.

What's the point of being a crossbowman if you don't have a multiplier against heavy infantary

They dont have a negative multiplier vs cav and japan are weak to cav until yumi are upgraded and clubs are out

If u put vills on the wonder without shipping 2v or 3 boat you will get no res in transition

No because then it really slows the build, you age like 4:10 with 3 boats and a good crate start or treasures

If youre vs russia or aztec or otto or maybe even brit, shrine boom is auto lose
In 2v2

You do neee to "cut eco" in team depending on the MU and map, you cant blindly boom everygame.

You also dont have to spend building time and 200w on a cons. Also wont need bows with this build so u can even go dutch cons and get the bank when you eventually build it. The main advantage of the toshuga is the 20pop which the tori build can do as u dont need to save 170w for a rax. Also building...

I actually think tori is better in 1v1 and team. Shrine boom is overated as fuck especially in 1v1, easy to plan and punish it. Cant plan beforehand if a japanese player is sending consecutive shipments. The rax samurai and 1.5x xp per unit killed, trained, buildings built etc.. i remember doing a 2...

Rdy to win the tournament after this, ty

Brit then jap, basically any civ with an eco bonus

gibson wrote:Was this stream?

yea just now

Wait wtf, who posted it then

No wonder tr players have higher iq, theyre just better players

ye NATO should have stayed out of the east. It was arrogant to believe that you could just swallow former russian territory and they would do nothing. Which former Russian territory has NATO swallowed? http://www.euratlas.net/history/europe/1900/entity_2344.html https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ostblo...

Kaiserklein wrote:Don't see why it would be harder than standard ger

Depends on the unit in the saloon, if its a good anti cav merc then the usual goon cav composition doesnt do so well which is vital for some civs to get a good trade

Mercs with the usual insane german shipments is prettu tough to deal with tbh