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by Colonel Concrete
17 Jan 2018, 02:57
Forum: Recorded Games
Topic: French vs 7 Expert Ai with 100% resource handicap each - 40minTR
Replies: 0
Views: 323
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French vs 7 Expert Ai with 100% resource handicap each - 40minTR

Here is the replay of a game I played a while back beating 7x Expert (Allied) AI players with 100% resource handicap each, in 40min treaty (me as France, the Ai as 'random'). (AOE3/TAD) I did this partly as a fun challenge for myself and also to people who think the French homecity card 'Fur Trade' ...
by Colonel Concrete
04 Jan 2018, 00:19
Forum: Treaty Discussion
Topic: AoE3 French Treaty Guide
Replies: 44
Views: 16751
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Re: AoE3 French Treaty Guide

Looks like no one has stepped up to the challenge.
Come on Fur Traders!

Ok so I got sick of waiting!.. Here's my recorded game if anyone's interested.
viewtopic.php?f=20&t=13319

Hopefully it helps some other French Treaty players, somehow! :)
by Colonel Concrete
14 Dec 2017, 11:15
Forum: Treaty Discussion
Topic: AoE3 French Treaty Guide
Replies: 44
Views: 16751
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Re: AoE3 French Treaty Guide

WickedCossack wrote:Aklak did 1v7 expert AI 100% handicap as French in supremacy mode and won. :o


Yep, I saw that (rather epic!).
But I mean with traditional gameplay, and a 40min treaty, as discussed above (this is a French Treaty article).
by Colonel Concrete
13 Dec 2017, 18:14
Forum: Treaty Discussion
Topic: AoE3 French Treaty Guide
Replies: 44
Views: 16751
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Re: AoE3 French Treaty Guide

Surely someone has had a go at this by now?

{Crickets...}
by Colonel Concrete
07 Dec 2017, 04:10
Forum: Real-life Discussion
Topic: E L E C T R I C I T Y
Replies: 52
Views: 1155
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Re: E L E C T R I C I T Y

Can I go with Serbian?! Haha. Actually do you mean ethnically, or by birth, or naturalised, re-naturalised, or claimed?! And by "electricity" I'm guessing you mean the colloquial modern usage of the term (AC). And I just googled it and it's spelt 'Nikola' not 'Nicola' b...
by Colonel Concrete
06 Dec 2017, 23:05
Forum: Treaty Discussion
Topic: AoE3 French Treaty Guide
Replies: 44
Views: 16751
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Re: AoE3 French Treaty Guide

Haha, I'll consider it if he first shows me he can beat the 'easy' AI using Fur Trade.. (Edit: I'm sure he'd kill me in no time in a match-up, judging by the ELO ladder stats alone, not to mention the experience differential! This isn't really about that though: I'd like to see how a pro tackles the...
by Colonel Concrete
06 Dec 2017, 05:32
Forum: Treaty Discussion
Topic: AoE3 French Treaty Guide
Replies: 44
Views: 16751
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Re: AoE3 French Treaty Guide

Nobody is playing treaty against AIs since it is no challenge at all. Just play online. Haha. ok... I'm guessing you haven't done this then! If it's "no challenge at all" I'd love to see a recorded game of it being done. I'm guessing why I can't seem to find this anywhere is not because i...
by Colonel Concrete
06 Dec 2017, 02:29
Forum: Treaty Discussion
Topic: AoE3 French Treaty Guide
Replies: 44
Views: 16751
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Re: AoE3 French Treaty Guide

It's like that in the statistics, but not in the score. Good to know, thanks. ..AI's are just bad and worth nothing, especially in treaty... So you have already done this then? If you haven't; try it - you might find it a challenge, even as useless as AI are, and with 40min treaty, and with the ama...
by Colonel Concrete
06 Dec 2017, 02:24
Forum: Treaty Discussion
Topic: AoE3 French Treaty Guide
Replies: 44
Views: 16751
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Re: AoE3 French Treaty Guide

_NiceKING_ wrote:No


Ok great! So its possible to get a higher score by not using Fur Trade then :) (In a long game..)
by Colonel Concrete
06 Dec 2017, 01:42
Forum: Treaty Discussion
Topic: AoE3 French Treaty Guide
Replies: 44
Views: 16751
Flag: New Zealand

Re: AoE3 French Treaty Guide

Most games don't last that long and in a mirror you're gonna be overrun without fur trade cause of fewer res and less strong military. Depends what kind of games you're playing: ever beat 7x allied AI on 100% resource handicap? (without Aklaks genius/trickery!) (You could say one gets a bit over-ru...
by Colonel Concrete
06 Dec 2017, 01:38
Forum: Treaty Discussion
Topic: AoE3 French Treaty Guide
Replies: 44
Views: 16751
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Re: AoE3 French Treaty Guide

Just compare the scores you can have with and without fur trade. As a side issue: This is actually not fair scoring btw - the score doesn't reflect the fact you LOSE (swap) the food you traded for gold. Instead it seems to count both the traded (lost) food and the 'free' gold towards the scoring. e...
by Colonel Concrete
06 Dec 2017, 01:11
Forum: Treaty Discussion
Topic: AoE3 French Treaty Guide
Replies: 44
Views: 16751
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Re: AoE3 French Treaty Guide

Lukas_L99 wrote:It is cause you have way more resources in total.


Actually you don't have more resources using Fur Trade and Food Trickle (for games longer than 87min), vs using say Food Silos and Rum Distillery. See my above analysis..
(That's assuming the mirror game pounds on for that long! haha.)
by Colonel Concrete
06 Dec 2017, 00:33
Forum: Treaty Discussion
Topic: AoE3 French Treaty Guide
Replies: 44
Views: 16751
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Re: AoE3 French Treaty Guide

Thanks for that _NiceKING_, I've updated my analysis above with those figures.

I still don't like Fur Trade! But it is good economically for shorter treaty games (just not long ones).
by Colonel Concrete
04 Dec 2017, 07:26
Forum: Treaty Discussion
Topic: AoE3 French Treaty Guide
Replies: 44
Views: 16751
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Re: AoE3 French Treaty Guide

yup, wood is also .5, coin mines are .6, hunts are .84, herdables are 2.0 (except for iro aztec sioux which are 1.25 i think), fish are .66 and whales are .5 i'm unsure of berries but i think they're .66, so slightly better than mills since they don't need walking time Cheers! - that's really helpf...
by Colonel Concrete
04 Dec 2017, 06:54
Forum: Treaty Discussion
Topic: AoE3 French Treaty Guide
Replies: 44
Views: 16751
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Re: AoE3 French Treaty Guide

the base gather rates for mills and plantations are different though.. .. in addition to that, you can send many more military shipments before 40[min] using fur trade than you can if you have to send a bunch of plantation upgrade cards Thanks! - That's really helpful, I didn't know what the base g...
by Colonel Concrete
04 Dec 2017, 06:34
Forum: Treaty Discussion
Topic: AoE3 French Treaty Guide
Replies: 44
Views: 16751
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Re: AoE3 French Treaty Guide

deleted_user wrote:Fur Trade is OP bruh


Yes it certainly is! But what I'm actually saying is that it isn't really as OP as possible!; French post-imperial upgraded resource production rates are well and truly OP though!

Edit: I did a detailed (economic) comparison on both: see below..
by Colonel Concrete
04 Dec 2017, 06:03
Forum: Treaty Discussion
Topic: AoE3 French Treaty Guide
Replies: 44
Views: 16751
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Re: AoE3 French Treaty Guide

Great write up in general thanks _NiceKing_ but I don't think you have the optimal deck for France in Treaty (well 30 or 40 min treaty anyway). (This below is for AOE3/TAD btw..) Leaving all the good tips aside I'll just focus on highlighting the five main issues: - Fur trade card shipment is not a...
by Colonel Concrete
29 Nov 2017, 06:20
Forum: Treaty Discussion
Topic: why people play treaty?
Replies: 92
Views: 3288
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Re: why people play treaty?

I like your name. Concrete is cool. Cheers! Somehow this was the first thing that came to mind.. (Although I'm not sure they had concrete, as we know it, at this point in time (AOE3 period); perhaps for AOE4?! - although it might start to look a little like Command and Conquer (/Red Alert) by then....
by Colonel Concrete
28 Nov 2017, 23:03
Forum: Treaty Discussion
Topic: why people play treaty?
Replies: 92
Views: 3288
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Re: why people play treaty?

First post, new on here. Be nice! Oh, and keep the Treaty. Adding myself to the treaty fan brigade. Live & let live I say +1 In fact they should EXPAND it if anything; why not allow up to say a 60min treaty? I am getting good-ish* at treaty and have barely finished building a robust base with a ...

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