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30 Dec 2023, 10:52

Being objective is not the same as being neutral, I think you confuse the two. Sometimes one side is just right. Democrats happen to be right more often.

Being objective implies having no point of view

Do furries go to the vet instead of a regular doc @Jam

[mention]u93[/mention] Most of the boredom about debating politics is that it's always couched in the same exhausted terms: party X vs party Y, mah set of based values vs your set of despicable values, my moral guys vs your immoral guys, my based positive well-intended optimal vision for the future ...

Letting Trump get away with trying to illegally overturn an election could prove problematic in the future. What made you so concerned he'd be getting away with that, since he's buried in tens of lawsuits right now. Also, having Trump as president is worse than having Biden as president, in my opin...

Then why invest so much energy into keeping up with that guy's legal issues. It's as if you're having high hopes this will solve something significant for the US. I don't think their politics will be driven by leaders, but by their changing demographics. So all this is just some drama that plays far...

I was anticipating what the hopes are from seeing Trump blocked from getting back in the WH
Personally, I'm hoping something happens and he fails

I was just suggesting that Trump not getting in the White House won't lead to those sunny prospects that some think it will. And actually maybe if Trump does win the presidency again, it might lead to less destruction by feeding his supporters again the illusion that he'll actually do something, so ...

Incoming quick quip from the ear

And? What's gonna happen? Trump will get banned from the potus race which will save democracy, the planet from climate change and will usher in the AI socialist utopia, amirite. Phew, humanity dodged a bullet there, the good guys won and the USA gets a decent human being as a president again and Eur...

I always assume that what people post on social media is a work of fiction

Social media are a great way for someone to bait a mass of brainlets to do something and then say haha I was just trollin bro, you rly believed that xD

Was Trump in a Zoom meeting with the 6 January protesters when they were breaking into the congress, which makes him an active participant?
Or was he present as a hologram pointing the way forward to the capitol with his hand projected from laser beams.

So you seem to put a lot of weight on his physical presence. Why is it so important for him to physically be there? I'd say he did "lead the charge", just not physically. Because it's common practice in law to differentiate between active participation and authorship of a crime, between i...

Well that would be up to you, in this case. The question is asking if there should be a law that would DQ him, not if there currently is. So it's up to you to decide if you think his actions should DQ him. As for what I think should DQ him, quite simply that he made a serious effort to overturn a l...

[mention]u2012[/mention] I know you love this, the outcome of the election in Netherlands, but curb your laughter, and your smear. I do not like it eigther, but vote is vote, and we have a democracy after all Why would I cheer for Wilders, he hates Romanians and is a big Israel fanboy. I did say fo...

Let me tell you of a case from my county. We had some local tycoon who was the president of the local administrative council. During one round of elections he made a phonecall to some chicken business owner, asking him to deliver a large quantity of chicken to some people as a form of electoral brib...

I'll unpack the question, maybe that helps you understand it and also why I'm asking it: Should there be a law on the basis of which Trump would be DQ'd from running for office? "Should there be a law ..." means do you think it would be best if there existed a law. Yet another way of putt...

But what's the logic of such a question... I already said he or anyone else should only be barred from office based on valid legal grounds, according to US law. Not sure what other answer do you want. That Trump the person specifically should have his own law in the US legal code that says: Trump sh...

Yeah, barring the insurrection charge, so far there aren't any other accusations that if they yielded a definitive verdict he'd be disqualified to run for office at a federal level, afaik. So far there doesn't seem to exist any valid legal reasons to bar him from running for potus, except for the Co...

No, I'm not saying there shouldn't be laws that should bar someone from public office, depending on the gravity of the deed, but that needs a definitive verdict up to the court of last resort. In Trump's case, there are lots of lawsuits filed on his name, most of them in relation to tax/wealth decla...

Would you DQ Trump from future elections, yes or no? And don't answer "whatever the law dictates" because you've already made the point that the law is vague and you can interpret it however you want. So interpret it however you want. US federal law already allows someone convicted of a f...

Coincidence that they happened to disrupt the session where they validated election results, right? Of course, it's actually not a coincidence, and there's a lot of evidence to prove that this "protest" was in fact intended specifically to disrupt this session and prevent the election fro...

He surely didn't write his own speech. The speech writer must have worked in tandem with a lawyer who advised him to include language that could serve as evidence in court that Trump encouraged them to protest peacefully. That later TV message in which he condemned the capitol violence was also done...

Do you think the excerpts from the constitution that I gave are evidence we can use to define the word "office" within the context of interpreting the constitution? And if not, why not? They're using the office term in two different contexts, in those passages you quoted: one when referri...