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by forgrin
04 Sep 2020, 03:48
Forum: Real-life Discussion
Topic: On the subject of race
Replies: 614
Views: 18015
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Re: ESOC and Racism

I feel like this quote is kinda hard to misinterpret... Cultures are naturally mutually exclusive, they exist by being different and exclusive and by seeing each other as separate and different. But you want to blend them all into your melting pot and turn everything into this homogenised, moralisti...
by forgrin
04 Sep 2020, 02:18
Forum: Real-life Discussion
Topic: On the subject of race
Replies: 614
Views: 18015
Flag: Canada

Re: ESOC and Racism

You are seeing this from your American perspective. You guys just don't have a culture anymore and just blended everything into this amorphous thing. And you forgot that cultures have always had their own ways of building stereotypes about other cultures, many of them "offensive". It's pa...
by forgrin
04 Sep 2020, 01:26
Forum: General
Topic: Potential problem with the Incas
Replies: 34
Views: 1216
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Re: Potential problem with the Incas

No concrete, 100% proven theory of something? Aliens did it.
by forgrin
03 Sep 2020, 09:16
Forum: Real-life Discussion
Topic: On the subject of race
Replies: 614
Views: 18015
Flag: Canada

Re: ESOC and Racism

Fair enough. I would like to give Ivan a chance in a week to get back on the forums and contribute. It wouldn't be the first time we have to ban someone and after their return they don't cross the line again. If you don't want to give him that chance, that's a fair point, we can agree to disagree. ...
by forgrin
03 Sep 2020, 07:27
Forum: Real-life Discussion
Topic: On the subject of race
Replies: 614
Views: 18015
Flag: Canada

Re: ESOC and Racism

The Age of Empires forum policy allows moderators to skip warning points for severe offences. Is there any doubt that if Ivan had said the same things on the official forum, he would have been permabanned? There are still plenty of places on the internet you can be a racist troll, there is no reason...
by forgrin
03 Sep 2020, 06:59
Forum: General
Topic: Elifant in the room: the role and future of ESOC Patch on DE
Replies: 72
Views: 2548
Flag: Canada

Re: Elifant in the room: the role and future of ESOC Patch on DE

Honestly, The ESOC patch is dead anyways. It's mostly used for tournaments. It's stupid to use a patch for tourneys that most people don't even play. For the sake of not splitting the communities, we should stick to the definitive edition. Even when the balance was terrible, the best people emerged...
by forgrin
03 Sep 2020, 01:26
Forum: Real-life Discussion
Topic: On the subject of race
Replies: 614
Views: 18015
Flag: Canada

Re: ESOC and Racism

I looked back through some of the threads where this started and I think I was the first person to use the word "racism." So I guess @Garja can blame me for all the wasted time lol.
by forgrin
03 Sep 2020, 01:21
Forum: General
Topic: China is lame?
Replies: 22
Views: 912
Flag: Canada

Re: China is lame?

At least 60% of the people who complain about China are Japan lamers that's for sure. What makes China "lame" is that in most games they just do 1-2 things (FF or old han FI), and they either win super hard or lose super hard depending on civ matchup (obviously this is oversimplifying), so...
by forgrin
02 Sep 2020, 07:56
Forum: General
Topic: Elifant in the room: the role and future of ESOC Patch on DE
Replies: 72
Views: 2548
Flag: Canada

Re: Elifant in the room: the role and future of ESOC Patch on DE

Viewership will be on DE for the same reason no one watches WOL. Viewership is on the EP while people play on the RE though, so I don't get your point. No one watches WOL because noone cares about WOL lol. People will play DE, they will want to see Inca and Sweden in games, they will want to learn ...
by forgrin
02 Sep 2020, 07:28
Forum: General
Topic: Elifant in the room: the role and future of ESOC Patch on DE
Replies: 72
Views: 2548
Flag: Canada

Re: Elifant in the room: the role and future of ESOC Patch on DE

Isn't it safe to assume that when microsoft finish supporting DE there will still be glaring balance issues? Then could we support a fan patch for DE? Ye, if balance is shit top players will definitely stay on EP. I really doubt that. Viewership will be on DE, which is what funds tourney prizes, pl...
by forgrin
02 Sep 2020, 07:24
Forum: General
Topic: Elifant in the room: the role and future of ESOC Patch on DE
Replies: 72
Views: 2548
Flag: Canada

Re: Elifant in the room: the role and future of ESOC Patch on DE

IMO any DE fanpatch would have to be quite far down the road if at all. Even if DE isn't good, releasing a DE fanpatch would just split the community even more (RE holdouts, DE, DE fanpatch).
by forgrin
02 Sep 2020, 05:28
Forum: General
Topic: Elifant in the room: the role and future of ESOC Patch on DE
Replies: 72
Views: 2548
Flag: Canada

Re: Elifant in the room: the role and future of ESOC Patch on DE

EP will be dead Oct 15 2020. Maybe if DE didn't launch with additional content, just graphics and balance tweaks like we thought after the first round of Beta, there would have been a chance for some EP staying power, but with so much new content in DE I think that's it for EP. The player population...
by forgrin
31 Aug 2020, 22:47
Forum: ESOC Talk
Topic: ESOC Stereotype Poll
Replies: 87
Views: 2796
Flag: Canada

Re: ESOC Stereotype Poll

That doesn't mean it doesn't exist a social construct It obviously does exist as a social construct, but that's not what's being discussed It's being said under the idea that "People should stop talking about race" though This is why I have an issue with what [mention]u3275[/mention] is s...
by forgrin
31 Aug 2020, 22:46
Forum: ESOC Talk
Topic: ESOC Stereotype Poll
Replies: 87
Views: 2796
Flag: Canada

Re: ESOC Stereotype Poll

That doesn't mean it doesn't exist a social construct It obviously does exist as a social construct, but that's not what's being discussed It's being said under the idea that "People should stop talking about race" though This is why I have an issue with what [mention]u3275[/mention] is s...
by forgrin
31 Aug 2020, 22:20
Forum: ESOC Talk
Topic: ESOC Stereotype Poll
Replies: 87
Views: 2796
Flag: Canada

Re: ESOC Stereotype Poll

That doesn't mean it doesn't exist a social construct It obviously does exist as a social construct, but that's not what's being discussed It's being said under the idea that "People should stop talking about race" though This is why I have an issue with what [mention]u3275[/mention] is s...
by forgrin
31 Aug 2020, 21:50
Forum: ESOC Talk
Topic: ESOC Stereotype Poll
Replies: 87
Views: 2796
Flag: Canada

Re: ESOC Stereotype Poll

That doesn't mean it doesn't exist a social construct It obviously does exist as a social construct, but that's not what's being discussed It's being said under the idea that "People should stop talking about race" though This is why I have an issue with what [mention]u3275[/mention] is s...
by forgrin
31 Aug 2020, 21:19
Forum: ESOC Talk
Topic: ESOC Stereotype Poll
Replies: 87
Views: 2796
Flag: Canada

Re: ESOC Stereotype Poll

This is just straight up not true, I guess you don't understand what "races" are? Leaving out all outward physical differences, how do you explain sickle-cell anemia, gluten tolerance, dairy tolerance without the factor of race? The racist part is implying that these characteristics make ...
by forgrin
31 Aug 2020, 21:05
Forum: ESOC Talk
Topic: ESOC Stereotype Poll
Replies: 87
Views: 2796
Flag: Canada

Re: ESOC Stereotype Poll

Eh really the only thing "taboo" here is thinking that race somehow correlates with intelligence. I think most people accept that education and wealth lead to less crime and vice versa. People should stop talking about race. Races does not exist within the human species . And there is dif...
by forgrin
31 Aug 2020, 17:50
Forum: General
Topic: Do you care about the change of american civilization?
Replies: 359
Views: 6716
Flag: Canada

Re: Do you care about the change of american civilization?

If it is really a slur, I didn't know that and didn't want to sound offensive by saying it. A funny thing about English is that most diminutive terms are slurs unless the diminutive is of a majority white group (ie British -> Brits, Australian -> Aussie). Diminuitives convey a lack of respect, whic...
by forgrin
31 Aug 2020, 17:41
Forum: General
Topic: Do you care about the change of american civilization?
Replies: 359
Views: 6716
Flag: Canada

Re: Do you care about the change of american civilization?

I'm just hoping the mods are leaving this thread open so that we can round up all the neo-nazis at once. [mention]u54[/mention] this is what I mean with even unconscious racism being harmful, you helped bring the real racists out and let them feel legitimized. I'm a neo-nazi now ? Wow. And what do ...
by forgrin
31 Aug 2020, 17:35
Forum: General
Topic: Do you care about the change of american civilization?
Replies: 359
Views: 6716
Flag: Canada

Re: Do you care about the change of american civilization?

I'm just hoping the mods are leaving this thread open so that we can round up all the neo-nazis at once.

@[Armag] diarouga this is what I mean with even unconscious racism being harmful, you helped bring the real racists out and let them feel legitimized.
by forgrin
31 Aug 2020, 11:10
Forum: General
Topic: Confirmed AoE3:DE information
Replies: 655
Views: 30377
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Re: Confirmed AoE3:DE information

Goodspeed wrote:
edeholland wrote:The Swedish houses look dope.

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What are those vills mining?
librul tears
by forgrin
31 Aug 2020, 11:03
Forum: General
Topic: Aoe3 DE Gameplay Interview
Replies: 368
Views: 10991
Flag: Canada

Re: Aoe3 DE Gameplay Interview

I don't know if any of us gets a say on what happens with DE tbh. That doesn't mean that we can't disagree and complain. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redlining I recommend you check out the redlining article. The issue is that people were selecting based on skin colour, using aggregate statistics ...
by forgrin
31 Aug 2020, 10:12
Forum: General
Topic: Aoe3 DE Gameplay Interview
Replies: 368
Views: 10991
Flag: Canada

Re: Aoe3 DE Gameplay Interview

If the Native American consultants cared enough to say it should be changed, then someone cares about it. Also, again it's their history, so on that point you don't really get a say. I don't get a say on their history, agreed. However, I get a say on age of empires 3 and changing the gameplay becau...

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