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by zoom
24 Mar 2020, 17:51
Forum: General
Topic: impossible MU ??
Replies: 72
Views: 1894
Flag: New Zealand

Re: impossible MU ??

Chinese vs Spanish.
by zoom
24 Mar 2020, 17:49
Forum: ESOC Patch Discussion
Topic: Less Limited Post-Winter Balance Adjustments (EP8)
Replies: 435
Views: 9313
Flag: New Zealand

Re: Less Limited Post-Winter Balance Adjustments (EP8)

I think ideally people would be a little more helpful to patch creators when it comes to answering their questions about a change and engaging in constructive discussion. It seems to me that the one proposing a change should take responsibility to prove it is useful (or not detrimental) and not the...
by zoom
24 Mar 2020, 17:34
Forum: ESOC Patch Discussion
Topic: Less Limited Post-Winter Balance Adjustments (EP8)
Replies: 435
Views: 9313
Flag: New Zealand

Re: Less Limited Post-Winter Balance Adjustments (EP8)

I think ideally people would be a little more helpful to patch creators when it comes to answering their questions about a change and engaging in constructive discussion. It seems to me that the one proposing a change should take responsibility to prove it is useful (or not detrimental) and not the...
by zoom
24 Mar 2020, 17:34
Forum: ESOC Patch Discussion
Topic: Less Limited Post-Winter Balance Adjustments (EP8)
Replies: 435
Views: 9313
Flag: New Zealand

Re: Less Limited Post-Winter Balance Adjustments (EP8)

Anyone who plays india knows the trick to taking a fight is having tank and snare ie urumi mahout and let high dps sepoy gurkha do the damage. Sowar half of them die before they reach their target, i thought this was obvious but i guess you have to come out with obvious statements to a captain who ...
by zoom
24 Mar 2020, 14:47
Forum: ESOC Talk
Topic: ESOC Cry Corner
Replies: 538
Views: 25164
Flag: New Zealand

Re: ESOC Cry Corner

I did. I'm a very hateful person.
by zoom
24 Mar 2020, 14:46
Forum: ESOC Patch Discussion
Topic: EP 8.0.x Beta [RELEASED-LIVE]
Replies: 142
Views: 4588
Flag: New Zealand

Re: EP 8.0.x Beta [2020-03-24]

Forgot to revert Rusk cost change (+5 cost per unit batch) which is now insignificant and unwarranted, imo. It's certainly insignificant. Whether it's unwarranted depends on whether you consider base decimal costs acceptable. Of course decimals are acceptable. Rusks have 18.4 damage. Boyarded Coss ...
by zoom
24 Mar 2020, 13:50
Forum: ESOC Patch Discussion
Topic: EP 8.0.x Beta [RELEASED-LIVE]
Replies: 142
Views: 4588
Flag: New Zealand

Re: EP 8.0.x Beta [2020-03-24]

EAGLEMUT wrote:Honestly, this patch has so few balance changes and so many reverts, that I'm not sure whether it will increase or decrease the length of overall balance change notes from RE.
Please take your sound logic elsewhere!
by zoom
24 Mar 2020, 13:50
Forum: ESOC Patch Discussion
Topic: EP 8.0.x Beta [RELEASED-LIVE]
Replies: 142
Views: 4588
Flag: New Zealand

Re: EP 8.0.x Beta [2020-03-24]

EAGLEMUT wrote:
The_Lastsamurai wrote:and when is this going live?
Should be Sunday night.
As explained in the OP, it will not be going live in its current state, though.
by zoom
24 Mar 2020, 13:50
Forum: ESOC Patch Discussion
Topic: EP 8.0.x Beta [RELEASED-LIVE]
Replies: 142
Views: 4588
Flag: New Zealand

Re: EP 8.0.x Beta [2020-03-24]

flontier wrote:Well funny things is that overall spain gonna be a bit weaker than on ep7.
I think that this is unlikely, but I'll be striking the Rodelero revert, regardless.
by zoom
24 Mar 2020, 13:50
Forum: ESOC Patch Discussion
Topic: EP 8.0.x Beta [RELEASED-LIVE]
Replies: 142
Views: 4588
Flag: New Zealand

Re: EP 8.0.x Beta [2020-03-24]

lancers with +2 range were too good imo i agree regarding the rods though, why change an already sub par unit? Because the unit isn't sub-par enough to be any less viable than the Musketeer. There really isn't any logical reason to keep it. Still, such are the lengths I will go to. :flowers: P.S. P...
by zoom
24 Mar 2020, 13:49
Forum: ESOC Patch Discussion
Topic: EP 8.0.x Beta [RELEASED-LIVE]
Replies: 142
Views: 4588
Flag: New Zealand

Re: EP 8.0.x Beta [2020-03-24]

Besteiro, Prussian Needle Gunner and Roger's Ranger multipliers updated respectively Underrated nerf to an eco japan lol I like the general bug fixes (ofc) and the changes to rockets and lancers. The rest all seems kinda iffy, especially the changes to mahout and puma are highly questionable. Edit:...
by zoom
24 Mar 2020, 13:49
Forum: ESOC Patch Discussion
Topic: EP 8.0.x Beta [RELEASED-LIVE]
Replies: 142
Views: 4588
Flag: New Zealand

Re: EP 8.0.x Beta [2020-03-24]

richard wrote:Forgot to revert Rusk cost change (+5 cost per unit batch) which is now insignificant and unwarranted, imo.
It's certainly insignificant. Whether it's unwarranted depends on whether you consider base decimal costs acceptable.
by zoom
24 Mar 2020, 13:49
Forum: ESOC Patch Discussion
Topic: EP 8.0.x Beta [RELEASED-LIVE]
Replies: 142
Views: 4588
Flag: New Zealand

Re: EP 8.0.x Beta [2020-03-24]

Seems like Indians have gurkas urumi and mahouts (as well as sepoy) now to deal with heavy infantry. The -10% cost in caballeros shipment will be super insignificant in 1v1 now i feel as compared to +2 range. The consulate changes are great work, I've always wondered why sending 4 siberian cossacks...
by zoom
24 Mar 2020, 13:49
Forum: ESOC Patch Discussion
Topic: EP 8.0.x Beta [RELEASED-LIVE]
Replies: 142
Views: 4588
Flag: New Zealand

Re: EP 8.0.x Beta [2020-03-24]

nooo don't nerf rods Can do! The +2 range on Lancers was a great idea. It helped Lancers a lot when dealing with clumps of Musk units, which is great design imo. Especially since you can hit a musk which is in ranged mode (e.g. what you want if you're fighting musk with cav). Please keep. I would h...
by zoom
24 Mar 2020, 13:49
Forum: ESOC Patch Discussion
Topic: EP 8.0.x Beta [RELEASED-LIVE]
Replies: 142
Views: 4588
Flag: New Zealand

Re: EP 8.0.x Beta [2020-03-24]

gibson wrote:I guess im just stupid cause I dont understand the point of like half these changes.
I think that reading the comments for the respective changes might help you, to that end.
by zoom
22 Mar 2020, 23:49
Forum: Site Suggestions
Topic: Most Efficient Way to Donate
Replies: 23
Views: 861
Flag: New Zealand

Re: Most Efficient Way to Donate

I was wondering what the most efficient way to donate. To my knowledge there are three ways to donate: 1) Twitch subs (tiers 1-3) 2) Donation through twitch link 3) Donation through website link (same as twitch link?) What is the fee structure for each out these methods (and any others I may have m...
by zoom
22 Mar 2020, 23:47
Forum: Site Suggestions
Topic: Most Efficient Way to Donate
Replies: 23
Views: 861
Flag: New Zealand

Re: Most Efficient Way to Donate

What the fuck is a "money order"!?
by zoom
22 Mar 2020, 23:42
Forum: ESOC Patch Discussion
Topic: Less Limited Post-Winter Balance Adjustments (EP8)
Replies: 435
Views: 9313
Flag: New Zealand

Re: Less Limited Post-Winter Balance Adjustments (EP8)

After reading this thread, it's become apparent to me that some players misunderstand certain changes, or why they are being made or suggested. For this reason, in addition to sincerely suggesting that everyone read the comments attached to each respective change, in the OP , I wish to emphasize the...
by zoom
22 Mar 2020, 20:04
Forum: ESOC Patch Discussion
Topic: Less Limited Post-Winter Balance Adjustments (EP8)
Replies: 435
Views: 9313
Flag: New Zealand

Re: Less Limited Post-Winter Balance Adjustments (EP8)

I am not against the trickle of native XP, but I do not like too much the change of technology or limit of natives tbh, natives must not change imo Are you aware of the fact that Incan build limits are over 60% greater than those of any other minor native tribe? The reason that I am suggesting this...
by zoom
22 Mar 2020, 20:01
Forum: Strategy
Topic: Is British infantry fine?
Replies: 28
Views: 916
Flag: New Zealand

Re: Is British infantry fine?

Maybe have Yeomen reduce wood cost. You should be more worried about Rockets than the civilization's infantry, though
princeofkabul wrote:I'd like that british thin line upgrade church card would be buffed a bit, decreasing speed penalty a bit for example.
This is a good idea for the next major viability update.
by zoom
22 Mar 2020, 19:58
Forum: ESOC Patch Discussion
Topic: Less Limited Post-Winter Balance Adjustments (EP8)
Replies: 435
Views: 9313
Flag: New Zealand

Re:

Do you think that the Rodolero would be unviable without +1 attack? Is there another logical reason not to revert this change, when the shipment bonus is being buffed? Unviable no, but rodo are not a great unit overall, and they are better now because caba give +2 range to your lancer so lancer/rod...
by zoom
22 Mar 2020, 19:48
Forum: ESOC Patch Discussion
Topic: Less Limited Post-Winter Balance Adjustments (EP8)
Replies: 435
Views: 9313
Flag: New Zealand

Re: Less Limited Post-Winter Balance Adjustments (EP8)

And again, Germany has been given a totally useless buff that nobody asked for. The discussion that has been going on for about 1-2 months has been thrown out the window. Stop trying to buff other stuff to mask your mistake on nerfing uhlan hp. At some point, you will have to give in and actually d...
by zoom
22 Mar 2020, 19:47
Forum: ESOC Patch Discussion
Topic: Less Limited Post-Winter Balance Adjustments (EP8)
Replies: 435
Views: 9313
Flag: New Zealand

Re: Less Limited Post-Winter Balance Adjustments (EP8)

why buff nat tp its good enough already. why let russian vills train faster when they already scale well. why increase wh to the aztec shaman politicians when theyre good enough already. why does team chonindo no longer affect hunting when normal eco theory does. long range infantry hitpoints incre...
by zoom
22 Mar 2020, 19:47
Forum: ESOC Patch Discussion
Topic: Less Limited Post-Winter Balance Adjustments (EP8)
Replies: 435
Views: 9313
Flag: New Zealand

Re: Less Limited Post-Winter Balance Adjustments (EP8)

Oh wow this patch, could comment on so many things but I'll just keep it to one ... The mahout buff is pretty huge, and I’m pretty afraid of that one. I don’t see why it needs to be such a drastic buff. Just reduce the negative multiplier rather than reduce it altogether. The Mahout change overall ...
by zoom
22 Mar 2020, 18:12
Forum: ESOC Patch Discussion
Topic: Less Limited Post-Winter Balance Adjustments (EP8)
Replies: 435
Views: 9313
Flag: New Zealand

Re: Less Limited Post-Winter Balance Adjustments (EP8)

Do you think that the Rodolero would be unviable without +1 attack? Is there another logical reason not to revert this change, when the shipment bonus is being buffed? Unviable no, but rodo are not a great unit overall, and they are better now because caba give +2 range to your lancer so lancer/rod...

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