British Discussion Thread
British Discussion Thread
This is the British Discussion thread, where several topics concerning this civilization on the ESOC Patch may be discussed. We're looking for feedback on the current state of balance, from the community's standpoint.
- thebritish
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British Discussion Thread
Hype.
I think +10% or +15% hp for their yeomen card would be good as yumi get it too because longbowman just suck in lategame with so little hp.
Yes, 199 hp is so little compared to skirmishers who have 252-282 hp and where the range isn't so important.
I think +10% or +15% hp for their yeomen card would be good as yumi get it too because longbowman just suck in lategame with so little hp.
Yes, 199 hp is so little compared to skirmishers who have 252-282 hp and where the range isn't so important.
krichk wrote: For some reason, you want the world to know that you're brave enough to challenge thebritish
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- Dragoon
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British Discussion Thread
thebritish wrote:Hype.
I think +10% or +15% hp for their yeomen card would be good as yumi get it too because longbowman just suck in lategame with so little hp.
Yes, 199 hp is so little compared to skirmishers who have 252-282 hp and where the range isn''t so important.
I don''t think that matters much in supremacy but for treaty it is a legitimate concern.
British Discussion Thread
I think the patch is going to focus into Supremacy since balancing Treaty is a whole different dealpurplesquid wrote:I dont think that matters much in supremacy but for treaty it is a legitimate concern.thebritish wrote:Hype.
I think +10% or +15% hp for their yeomen card would be good as yumi get it too because longbowman just suck in lategame with so little hp.
Yes, 199 hp is so little compared to skirmishers who have 252-282 hp and where the range isnt so important.
- [Armag] diarouga
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It does, vs Fre/dutch/ger/china I go age3 with brit and go yumi.purplesquid wrote:I dont think that matters much in supremacy but for treaty it is a legitimate concern.thebritish wrote:Hype.
I think +10% or +15% hp for their yeomen card would be good as yumi get it too because longbowman just suck in lategame with so little hp.
Yes, 199 hp is so little compared to skirmishers who have 252-282 hp and where the range isnt so important.
- thebritish
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French Guard Skirmishers (Voltigeirs) have 216 HP with one homecity card, while longbowmans have 199 with Imperial Status.
You cant really kite with 26 unless you are fighting cav or hand infantry and have a wall close to them.
You cant really kite with 26 unless you are fighting cav or hand infantry and have a wall close to them.
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- britishmusketeer
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British Discussion Thread
lbows have twice the rate of fire of most other units but low hp so they rely on standing and firing from the back without taking damage. They beat skirmishers cost effectively btw.thebritish wrote:French Guard Skirmishers (Voltigeirs) have 216 HP with one homecity card, while longbowmans have 199 with Imperial Status.
You cant really kite with 26 unless you are fighting cav or hand infantry and have a wall close to them.
- thebritish
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British Discussion Thread
they dont have big damage.britishmusketeer wrote:lbows have twice the rate of fire of most other units but low hp so they rely on standing and firing from the back without taking damage. They beat skirmishers cost effectively btw.thebritish wrote:French Guard Skirmishers (Voltigeirs) have 216 HP with one homecity card, while longbowmans have 199 with Imperial Status.
You cant really kite with 26 unless you are fighting cav or hand infantry and have a wall close to them.
they are average and 0.1 better RoF means nothing.
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British Discussion Thread
They have high damage, since they fire twice as fast.
British Discussion Thread
If you ask a question and someone responses to it you'll need to trsut him. Ofc not every opinion but he is good enough to let you things know' they are true in most cases i believe.
Again and again and again btw...
Again and again and again btw...
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- Musketeer
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British Discussion Thread
I think british mill cost should be 300 because they run out of food to early. Or they get the first mill upgrade for free. Idk
British Discussion Thread
Brit are tier 1 one on FP
- edeholland
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Not on balanced maps. They don''t have to mill earlier than any other civ really.anonymous wrote:I think british mill cost should be 300 because they run out of food to early. Or they get the first mill upgrade for free. Idk
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imo british are fine. They are not too strong but not weak either
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It is balanced.
Maybe boost longbows a little. +5hp to base stats or +10% hp to age III lb shipment.
Maybe boost longbows a little. +5hp to base stats or +10% hp to age III lb shipment.
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garja wrote:lbow is a pretty broken unit. Can be either very strong or super suxor.
I''m not suggesting this as a change, but is it possible to remove the load animation for lb(or any unit with an loading animation)?
- thebritish
- Jaeger
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+1somppukunkku wrote:It is balanced.
Maybe boost longbows a little. +5hp to base stats or +10% hp to age III lb shipment.
This is what they need.
@garja, here is a top player who suggests something for brits.
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- thebritish
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Re: British Discussion Thread
Can the brits explorer get moved to discovery age instead of colonial age.
It sucks very much to try new things with brits if they have their explroer in age 2, while other civs have it in age 1.
Also, in nilla 1.0 brits had their explorer card in age 1, so why change it to age 2.
It sucks very much to try new things with brits if they have their explroer in age 2, while other civs have it in age 1.
Also, in nilla 1.0 brits had their explorer card in age 1, so why change it to age 2.
krichk wrote: For some reason, you want the world to know that you're brave enough to challenge thebritish
- Atomiswave
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Re: British Discussion Thread
Brits are fine, only lbows need some attention.
Re: British Discussion Thread
what no... Longbows are great already. They just dont do too well against heavy infantry, but neither do xbows. And british already have great musketeers to deal with heavy infantry.
- thebritish
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Re: British Discussion Thread
Jerom wrote:what no... Longbows are great already. They just dont do too well against heavy infantry, but neither do xbows. And british already have great musketeers to deal with heavy infantry.
lol, from when musketeers counter heavy infantry
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- britishmusketeer
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Re: British Discussion Thread
thebritish wrote:Can the brits explorer get moved to discovery age instead of colonial age.
It sucks very much to try new things with brits if they have their explroer in age 2, while other civs have it in age 1.
Also, in nilla 1.0 brits had their explorer card in age 1, so why change it to age 2.
They are not going to change stuff that has zero impact on the game.
- thebritish
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Re: British Discussion Thread
britishmusketeer wrote:thebritish wrote:Can the brits explorer get moved to discovery age instead of colonial age.
It sucks very much to try new things with brits if they have their explroer in age 2, while other civs have it in age 1.
Also, in nilla 1.0 brits had their explorer card in age 1, so why change it to age 2.
They are not going to change stuff that has zero impact on the game.
it has actually.
Its not fair at all to have it as age 2 card because they have 4 cards for upgrading units, while other civs who have it in age 1, have their upgrades in age 3 and age 4
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