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This is the British Discussion thread, where several topics concerning this civilization on the ESOC Patch may be discussed. We're looking for feedback on the current state of balance, from the community's standpoint.
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I just hope DE is not going to implement all of the EP changes. Right now it is a big clusterfuck.
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Hype.
I think +10% or +15% hp for their yeomen card would be good as yumi get it too because longbowman just suck in lategame with so little hp.
Yes, 199 hp is so little compared to skirmishers who have 252-282 hp and where the range isn't so important.
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Brits units are perfectly fine.
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thebritish wrote:Hype.
I think +10% or +15% hp for their yeomen card would be good as yumi get it too because longbowman just suck in lategame with so little hp.
Yes, 199 hp is so little compared to skirmishers who have 252-282 hp and where the range isn''t so important.

I don''t think that matters much in supremacy but for treaty it is a legitimate concern.
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purplesquid wrote:
thebritish wrote:Hype.
I think +10% or +15% hp for their yeomen card would be good as yumi get it too because longbowman just suck in lategame with so little hp.
Yes, 199 hp is so little compared to skirmishers who have 252-282 hp and where the range isnt so important.
I dont think that matters much in supremacy but for treaty it is a legitimate concern.
I think the patch is going to focus into Supremacy since balancing Treaty is a whole different deal
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purplesquid wrote:
thebritish wrote:Hype.
I think +10% or +15% hp for their yeomen card would be good as yumi get it too because longbowman just suck in lategame with so little hp.
Yes, 199 hp is so little compared to skirmishers who have 252-282 hp and where the range isnt so important.
I dont think that matters much in supremacy but for treaty it is a legitimate concern.
It does, vs Fre/dutch/ger/china I go age3 with brit and go yumi.
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French Guard Skirmishers (Voltigeirs) have 216 HP with one homecity card, while longbowmans have 199 with Imperial Status.
You cant really kite with 26 unless you are fighting cav or hand infantry and have a wall close to them.
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thebritish wrote:French Guard Skirmishers (Voltigeirs) have 216 HP with one homecity card, while longbowmans have 199 with Imperial Status.
You cant really kite with 26 unless you are fighting cav or hand infantry and have a wall close to them.
lbows have twice the rate of fire of most other units but low hp so they rely on standing and firing from the back without taking damage. They beat skirmishers cost effectively btw.
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britishmusketeer wrote:
thebritish wrote:French Guard Skirmishers (Voltigeirs) have 216 HP with one homecity card, while longbowmans have 199 with Imperial Status.
You cant really kite with 26 unless you are fighting cav or hand infantry and have a wall close to them.
lbows have twice the rate of fire of most other units but low hp so they rely on standing and firing from the back without taking damage. They beat skirmishers cost effectively btw.

they dont have big damage.
they are average and 0.1 better RoF means nothing.
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They have high damage, since they fire twice as fast.
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If you ask a question and someone responses to it you'll need to trsut him. Ofc not every opinion but he is good enough to let you things know' they are true in most cases i believe.
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I think british mill cost should be 300 because they run out of food to early. Or they get the first mill upgrade for free. Idk
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Brit are tier 1 one on FP
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anonymous wrote:I think british mill cost should be 300 because they run out of food to early. Or they get the first mill upgrade for free. Idk
Not on balanced maps. They don''t have to mill earlier than any other civ really.
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imo british are fine. They are not too strong but not weak either
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It is balanced.
Maybe boost longbows a little. +5hp to base stats or +10% hp to age III lb shipment.
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lbow is a pretty broken unit. Can be either very strong or super suxor.
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garja wrote:lbow is a pretty broken unit. Can be either very strong or super suxor.

I''m not suggesting this as a change, but is it possible to remove the load animation for lb(or any unit with an loading animation)?
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somppukunkku wrote:It is balanced.
Maybe boost longbows a little. +5hp to base stats or +10% hp to age III lb shipment.
+1
This is what they need.


@garja, here is a top player who suggests something for brits.
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Can the brits explorer get moved to discovery age instead of colonial age.
It sucks very much to try new things with brits if they have their explroer in age 2, while other civs have it in age 1.
Also, in nilla 1.0 brits had their explorer card in age 1, so why change it to age 2.
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Brits are fine, only lbows need some attention.
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what no... Longbows are great already. They just dont do too well against heavy infantry, but neither do xbows. And british already have great musketeers to deal with heavy infantry.
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Jerom wrote:what no... Longbows are great already. They just dont do too well against heavy infantry, but neither do xbows. And british already have great musketeers to deal with heavy infantry.

lol, from when musketeers counter heavy infantry
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thebritish wrote:Can the brits explorer get moved to discovery age instead of colonial age.
It sucks very much to try new things with brits if they have their explroer in age 2, while other civs have it in age 1.
Also, in nilla 1.0 brits had their explorer card in age 1, so why change it to age 2.

They are not going to change stuff that has zero impact on the game.
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britishmusketeer wrote:
thebritish wrote:Can the brits explorer get moved to discovery age instead of colonial age.
It sucks very much to try new things with brits if they have their explroer in age 2, while other civs have it in age 1.
Also, in nilla 1.0 brits had their explorer card in age 1, so why change it to age 2.

They are not going to change stuff that has zero impact on the game.

it has actually.
Its not fair at all to have it as age 2 card because they have 4 cards for upgrading units, while other civs who have it in age 1, have their upgrades in age 3 and age 4
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