British Discussion Thread

[[Armag] diarouga]

Because you say china don t need goons becausr they have keshiks?

[thebritish]

Because you say china don t need goons becausr they have keshiks?

they get 3 pikes with their skirms, and if the opponent is going full cav, they can switch to keshiks+pike because the keshiks are worser than ruyters, but same price i think, and they have double RoF, so they dont suck as much as everyone are saying..

[Jaeger]

do you know that the melee attack is 1.5 and skirms can hit and run to safety while lbows need to stand in one place and they lose their effectivity in melee

A good brit player (not you) will always have musks infront of their lbows to prevent precisely that.

i am not good brit player, but i am good overall.
Also, thats the shit thing i want to get fixed, why should i make musks with my lbows to counter musks when i can just take french and go pure skirms to rape musks.
If you want a really balanced patch, make lbows as good as skirms and make them more costly instead of just saying the same shit all over again "get musks to counter enemy musks"

musk lb will beat musk skirm

[thebritish]

rofl, did you even read what i was talking about?
why pure skirmishers win vs pure musks and pure lbow dont.
Now you AGAIN AND AGAIN compare lbows how well they will do vs skirms...

[Jaeger]

Yes. Only ranged units that have 1.5 rof are all cav archers, lbow, cetan bow, aenna, iron troop, macehualtin and ERK.

How does ROF work? Does 1.5 ROF mean 1 shot/1.5 sec?

[Jaeger]

rofl, did you even read what i was talking about?
why pure skirmishers win vs pure musks and pure lbow dont.
Now you AGAIN AND AGAIN compare lbows how well they will do vs skirms...

Because longbows are not a clone unit of skirms. This brings more variety too, it's not like brit will lose vs full musk, they can easily beat it with lb+musk

[Garja]

Lbows do crush musk as long as number are even. Aside from that ye, lbows are more all around units that deal high damage to anything while skirms are specialized in countering heavy infantry.

Yes. Only ranged units that have 1.5 rof are all cav archers, lbow, cetan bow, aenna, iron troop, macehualtin and ERK.

How does ROF work? Does 1.5 ROF mean 1 shot/1.5 sec?

Yes. Basically they shoot twice as fast as other ranged units so a good approximation of their DPS is 2x the base attack.

[Hazza54321]

rofl, did you even read what i was talking about?
why pure skirmishers win vs pure musks and pure lbow dont.
Now you AGAIN AND AGAIN compare lbows how well they will do vs skirms...

make some musk then not difficult, then youll rape,

[fei123456]

give longbow 2× musk.
then move them to age 3.

so, what about age 2?
as you said, "did you ever heard of a ff?"

[thebritish]

give longbow 2× musk.
then move them to age 3.

so, what about age 2?
as you said, "did you ever heard of a ff?"

I think that is okay, also +10 food cost and +5HP on base stats could fix all things.

[yemshi]

rofl

[thebritish]

rofl

why are you laughting?

[yemshi]

you asking me WHY?

[thebritish]

you asking me WHY?

I am ok with +5 HP and +0.75x multiplier damage vs HI, but, everybody will say that lbows will be OP, so the only way is to increase their food cost.

[yemshi]

What about not changing them at all?

[Goodspeed]

Thebritish, can you stop talking about longbows? They are not going to be changed, please allow the thread to move on. If you want to discuss longbows feel free to make a thread about them in the AoE3 general or strategy boards.

[Historien]

This guys is hilarious... every civ has its pros and cons, look at the big picture.
Lbows are different and pretty good, don't make an ass of yourself and listen to them, they know what they are talking about.

[Hazza54321]

lbs are an op unit, they just need a meatshield which isnt hard as brits, brits are a top tier civ, onlyy germany beats them and that match up is still winable

[Mimsy for President]

give them free yeomen :3

[Panmaster]

Yes. Only ranged units that have 1.5 rof are all cav archers, lbow, cetan bow, aenna, iron troop, macehualtin and ERK.

Rifle Riders?

[Garja]

Yes rifle riders as well.

[farran34]

lbs are an op unit, they just need a meatshield which isnt hard as brits, brits are a top tier civ, onlyy germany beats them and that match up is still winable

only germany beats british?

what about france, india and china?

fra
india

[Hazza54321]

france dont and forgot about india and china

[Method_man714]

do you know that the melee attack is 1.5 and skirms can hit and run to safety while lbows need to stand in one place and they lose their effectivity in melee

A good brit player (not you) will always have musks infront of their lbows to prevent precisely that.

i am not good brit player, but i am good overall.
Also, thats the shit thing i want to get fixed, why should i make musks with my lbows to counter musks when i can just take french and go pure skirms to rape musks.
If you want a really balanced patch, make lbows as good as skirms and make them more costly instead of just saying the same shit all over again "get musks to counter enemy musks"

Oh wow! You are so right again! Why haven't haven't you Been made the head of the patch team? All your points make perfect sense and you are almost always correct with whatever you say, don't let any of these noobs tell you anything, I wish we all had an understanding of this game like you do.

[Method_man714]

Musk aren t viable in fortress wars so you won t have to deal with musks at this point and in colo fre or ger dton t have skirms.

If you don't have musk age 3 vs French gendarmes will rape your lb, you just need a few as meat shield, probably the only time musks are useful age 3, I should know cause I got 2056 elo recently, are you proud?