Iroquois Discussion Thread
Re: Iroquois Discussion Thread
lol keep the ego² out of the discussion :/
it's remarkable that people will still find ways to shit talk other people when discussing the game
it's remarkable that people will still find ways to shit talk other people when discussing the game
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Re: Iroquois Discussion Thread
Garja is basing his arguments on his autority but he looses almost every pr30+ when he plays iro lol.
So ofc, we have to mention his elo.
So ofc, we have to mention his elo.
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[Armag] diarouga wrote:Garja is basing his arguments on his autority but he looses almost every pr30+ when he plays iro lol.
So ofc, we have to mention his elo.
+1
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I think I'm perfectly on 50% with Iro considering also play tests. I can prove my point anyway next week when I can play again with a new keyboard (current broken yesterday =/)
Besides, yes I don't have nothing to prove lol
If you don't wanna play iros it's your loss.
Besides, yes I don't have nothing to prove lol
If you don't wanna play iros it's your loss.
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[Armag] diarouga wrote:Jerom wrote:and here we have the infamous garja argument: "I am right but I dont want to explain why I am right because its too much effort (actually because I am wrong)".Garja wrote:Still beng annoying... jesus, stop this.
I can prove my points anytime if I really care to do that.
He already prooved it by loosing all his games as iro xD
[Armag] diarouga wrote:Garja is basing his arguments on his autority but he looses almost every pr30+ when he plays iro lol.
So ofc, we have to mention his elo.
WOAH!
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Re: Iroquois Discussion Thread
Can we just remove the fast age on Iro for age 2?
This way they could not rush that efficient, and also for those 100 food, you could give them +1 villager..
This way they could not rush that efficient, and also for those 100 food, you could give them +1 villager..
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First of all, I'd rather just increase the time on all fast age-ups in the game by 5 train-points.
Second of all, giving Iroquois a sixth starting Villager would make them as good as they are on RE.
Second of all, giving Iroquois a sixth starting Villager would make them as good as they are on RE.
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i would touch nothing for the time being <_<
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thebritish wrote:Can we just remove the fast age on Iro for age 2?
This way they could not rush that efficient, and also for those 100 food, you could give them +1 villager..
Dude, we are talking about the ESOC patch !
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Mimsy for President wrote:thebritish wrote:Can we just remove the fast age on Iro for age 2?
This way they could not rush that efficient, and also for those 100 food, you could give them +1 villager..
Dude, we are talking about the ESOC patch !
I am talking for the ESOC patch too.
now they do't have really good rush potential, but if you give them 1 villager instead of 100 food and not allow them to use fast age up option to colonial, they wont really have so bad eco, so they wont just all in rush or FF every single game.
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Oh, instead of 100f...
That's a viable option. Unfortunately Garja hates it.
That's a viable option. Unfortunately Garja hates it.
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Not even hate it's just pointless. By that reasoning we should also remove one crate from Russia, Aztec and Sioux and give them one villager because "their eco is bad".
Iro is close to perfection now if you ask me. The only thing we might consider is just to revert (partially maybe) some of the changes we made.
Iro is close to perfection now if you ask me. The only thing we might consider is just to revert (partially maybe) some of the changes we made.
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Garja wrote:Not even hate it's just pointless. By that reasoning we should also remove one crate from Russia, Aztec and Sioux and give them one villager because "their eco is bad".
Iro is close to perfection now if you ask me. The only thing we might consider is just to revert (partially maybe) some of the changes we made.
Revert the War Chief nerf and everything is perfect imo.
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Wuangaga wrote:Garja wrote:Not even hate it's just pointless. By that reasoning we should also remove one crate from Russia, Aztec and Sioux and give them one villager because "their eco is bad".
Iro is close to perfection now if you ask me. The only thing we might consider is just to revert (partially maybe) some of the changes we made.
Revert the War Chief nerf and everything is perfect imo.
+1
Re: Iroquois Discussion Thread
I agree, the Warchief aura at least requires the player to keep him up. Its not just a natural bonus that is always there like the wood for TP.
mad cuz bad
Re: Iroquois Discussion Thread
I'd rather revert the Aenna nerf, if anything, and then nerf Sioux WC aura from 15% to 10%.
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Garja wrote:Not even hate it's just pointless. By that reasoning we should also remove one crate from Russia, Aztec and Sioux and give them one villager because "their eco is bad".
Iro is close to perfection now if you ask me. The only thing we might consider is just to revert (partially maybe) some of the changes we made.
Unless of course they happen to be stronker than Iroquois and not need it while Iroquois does.
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Re: Iroquois Discussion Thread
zoom wrote:I'd rather revert the Aenna nerf, if anything, and then nerf Sioux WC aura from 15% to 10%.
Most iro go age3 now so reverting aenna nerf wouldn't really matter while wc aura would buff any build.
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It would not affect Iroquois Fortress Age directly, no. Correct observation.
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Re: Iroquois Discussion Thread
They aren t bad but they are nothing special.
They don t have falcs in fortress, they don t have a crazy eco, late fortress like japan nor op shipments to mass super hard like spain, sioux, ger...
They're a bit like dutch on the re, they age3 with an average eco, they don t have op fortress timings and their late game is quite bad...
5% would buff their timings and their late game which is nice.
I know that we aren t going to chance civs again before months but imo they also need anti falcs, even it is something awkward like indian's siege elephants or chinese's mortars.
They don t have falcs in fortress, they don t have a crazy eco, late fortress like japan nor op shipments to mass super hard like spain, sioux, ger...
They're a bit like dutch on the re, they age3 with an average eco, they don t have op fortress timings and their late game is quite bad...
5% would buff their timings and their late game which is nice.
I know that we aren t going to chance civs again before months but imo they also need anti falcs, even it is something awkward like indian's siege elephants or chinese's mortars.
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Iro army in age3 is better than many civs. Their shipments are as good as the sioux ones.
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Re: Iroquois Discussion Thread
Garja wrote:Iro army in age3 is better than many civs. Their shipments are as good as the sioux ones.
Why is the sioux semi better then?
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Re: Iroquois Discussion Thread
zoom wrote:WC aura.
Even on the re sioux semi is better.
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