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Why France has 8 skim transition, China has 9skim, and India only 5? Since Gurkha is weaker than the others skim. It would be the agra have 9skim transition. As China.
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pikadasgalaxias wrote:Why France has 8 skim transition, China has 9skim, and India only 5? Since Gurkha is weaker than the others skim. It would be the agra have 9skim transition. As China.
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French have a 6 Skirmishers politician. Chinese have an 8-Arquebusiers Wonder.pikadasgalaxias wrote:Why France has 8 skim transition, China has 9skim, and India only 5? Since Gurkha is weaker than the others skim. It would be the agra have 9skim transition. As China.
It may need a buff though. For now it''s not a priority.
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honestly, asian civs age ups are just too strong in general.
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Why is that food:gold ratio so important? There are plenty of units with non-standart costs/res ratios. Aennas cost only food, ruyters cost mostly coin, kanyas cost a lot of wood...thebritish wrote:well, musketeers have 3:1 food/gold cost, so, it would be dumb sepoys to have less than 2:1 food-gold cost, or maybe just put it +10 food..britishmusketeer wrote:why would it be?
Anyhow - increasing sepoy cost by 5 coin wouldnt make them have "less than 2:1 food-gold cost".
90 food 35 coin is roughly about 2.5:1
And we have ashis which cost 80 food and 40 coin (2:1), or janis which cost 100 food and 25 coin (4:1).....
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India is totally fine and need no buff or nerfs.
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India isn't a lame civ really, but most use it as a lame. If i were the Developer of the patch, i would be adding +20 or +10 for India's houses. Nothing else will be needed to nerf here. As, India can also have the option of booming through karni in maps like gp and himalaya. This should be the perfect way of balancing the civ. No can even do the lame 1v1(10/10), where you need houses at age 2 to spam sepoys. Even you go Agra and slow sepoy rush, this should be a perfect nerf. As a buff, i would be suggesting sowars +20 HP as DB said. And also +5 or +10 food cost for them. India still suffers against otto even in the patch. You only got luck to win otto as India.
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Tbh karni sux on himalayas, it's best on gp imo, agra is still favourable in 100% of maps.
I don't agree with the increasing of Indian houses. 80 wood houses is the feature of the civ, so it shouldn't be changed.
I don't agree with the increasing of Indian houses. 80 wood houses is the feature of the civ, so it shouldn't be changed.
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zoom wrote:French have a 6 Skirmishers politician. Chinese have an 8-Arquebusiers Wonder.pikadasgalaxias wrote:Why France has 8 skim transition, China has 9skim, and India only 5? Since Gurkha is weaker than the others skim. It would be the agra have 9skim transition. As China.
It may need a buff though. For now its not a priority.
dont see why it needs a buff, the skirm count that is, because you also get a big fat agra that shoots at people. you shouldnt go agra to fortress anyway, to colo or not at all. and there is barely ever a reason to not go agra to colo. But i guess, it could give the upgrade too when you age to fortress+, so that you can also make cav units from the agra.
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Because it may be underwhelming for Fortress and later ages.
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Yep. And also euro skirms are better than chinese skirms, so six is fair age up bonus.umeu wrote:dont see why it needs a buff, the skirm count that is, because you also get a big fat agra that shoots at people. you shouldnt go agra to fortress anyway, to colo or not at all. and there is barely ever a reason to not go agra to colo. But i guess, it could give the upgrade too when you age to fortress+, so that you can also make cav units from the agra.zoom wrote:French have a 6 Skirmishers politician. Chinese have an 8-Arquebusiers Wonder.
It may need a buff though. For now its not a priority.
I agree that you should go agra in age 2, if not, never agra, because then there are better wonders.
The upgrade for agra is quite cheap to improve attack of it and having free stable, it costs only 150 wood 150 coin I think. You can now do like dual inf at a time, and dual cav at other time.
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f you nerf janissary why dont you nerf sepoy to 180hp?it's totally unfair!
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So you want to let sepoy die in two shots which will now make the India unplayable for rushing, which is the original playstyle of the civ. This is huge nerf.paul wrote:f you nerf janissary why dont you nerf sepoy to 180hp?it''s totally unfair!
Good luck losing even harder to China, Japan, Otto, French, Germans, Spain, Portugal, Brits, Dutch and Sioux.
And who''s talking about nerfing janissary? Janissary will still die in 3 shots even if you nerf it, so it makes no sense to nerf it. Jans are totally fine. Its abus which need more nerf.
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subzero wrote:So you want to let sepoy die in two shots which will now make the India unplayable for rushing, which is the original playstyle of the civ. This is huge nerf.paul wrote:f you nerf janissary why dont you nerf sepoy to 180hp?its totally unfair!
Good luck losing even harder to China, Japan, Otto, French, Germans, Spain, Portugal, Brits, Dutch and Sioux.?
And whos talking about nerfing janissary? Janissary will still die in 3 shots even if you nerf it, so it makes no sense to nerf it. Jans are totally fine. Its abus which need more nerf.?
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subzero wrote:So you want to let sepoy die in two shots which will now make the India unplayable for rushing, which is the original playstyle of the civ. This is huge nerf.paul wrote:f you nerf janissary why dont you nerf sepoy to 180hp?its totally unfair!
Good luck losing even harder to China, Japan, Otto, French, Germans, Spain, Portugal, Brits, Dutch and Sioux.?
And whos talking about nerfing janissary? Janissary will still die in 3 shots even if you nerf it, so it makes no sense to nerf it. Jans are totally fine. Its abus which need more nerf.?
I think you underrate india a little bit here.
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To quote Lord Saddler himself: "It seems that way..."
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Okay, i get the point but it is the thing which actually balances the whole civ. Take a comparison between the houses and the civ. India is the only civ which already has upgraded the two wood market ups, and you have the distributivism card which adds up wood trickle. Even then why do you need 80 wood cost for houses? It isn''t a feature.. A thing which should be changed to balance the game. India is a slow boomer, but even though they are good at early and mid colonial. When you put pressure on basic eco for India, this should balance the civ. the basic resource for india is wood, Add something like on buildings and see the result.subzero wrote:Tbh karni sux on himalayas, it''s best on gp imo, agra is still favourable in 100% of maps.
I don''t agree with the increasing of Indian houses. 80 wood houses is the feature of the civ, so it shouldn''t be changed.
oranges.
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Because your Villagers cost the same nominal amount of wood and wood gathers slowly.
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Also you don't have steel trap with india.
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No, you have Hunting Eagles Professional Hunters, Civil Servants and Imperial Bureaucracy instead.
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India will be underrated if sepoys die in 2 TC shots lol. So a rush which takes 36 TC shots. Sepoy rush will simply become French musk rush, or even worse.jerom wrote:I think you underrate india a little bit here.subzero wrote:So you want to let sepoy die in two shots which will now make the India unplayable for rushing, which is the original playstyle of the civ. This is huge nerf.
Good luck losing even harder to China, Japan, Otto, French, Germans, Spain, Portugal, Brits, Dutch and Sioux.
And whos talking about nerfing janissary? Janissary will still die in 3 shots even if you nerf it, so it makes no sense to nerf it. Jans are totally fine. Its abus which need more nerf.
I dont know how to nerf India tbh, maybe we can nerf zambs attack or urumi I guess.
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Yep. I get your point. But actually steep traps is more comfortable upgrade to research in general.zoom wrote:No, you have Hunting Eagles Professional Hunters, Civil Servants and Imperial Bureaucracy instead.
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