[TP] Idea: Give Ottoman Spahis

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[TP] Idea: Give Ottoman Spahis

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Hey, what about the idea to give Ottomans Saphis in stable instead of hussars? This would buff them a bit but also include a new different unit. What are your opnions?
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I guess you mean Spahis :hmm:
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bad idea, they are op and get free upgraded...
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spahis are way too good, although I would like the idea of having an infinite spahi shipment
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Same contra argument as for urumis: It wont fix any of their match ups, in which ottoman suck. Oh wait, that's like all of them.
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Lol with spahis in stable otto would probs be top civ. Well, it depends on how much spahis would cost in a stable, but if you make them cost 280f for 3 pop space like they are supposed to be, it would be super lame. People actually underrate spahis, cuirs are really a joke compared to them. With full upgrades : 1500+ hp, 68 attack, 3 area, when a 3 pop cuir would have 1150 hp, 66 attack and most importantly only 2 area (huge difference). If you put them in the stables you need to make it a 4 pop unit costing at least 350 res
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Spahis could also be nerfed a bit like gends were
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supernapoleon wrote:Spahis could also be nerfed a bit like gends were

They would need to be nerfed ALOT. And it is still true what Gichten said, it won't fix the mu's where Otto suck. But it will help them quite a bit in their already decent mu's (ofc depending on how much they are nerfed).
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Imo, that isn't needed in terms of civ balance, but that would be very delighting, because it is frustarting not being able to do more of them.
Imo, what would be geat would be to have them as special unit in the saloon instead of ronins when you send a card, exactly as asian special units.
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It could probably be fun, I agree, but it would mean 2 things:
-Ottos would still be kinda bad vs civs with high pop armies like france or dutch, their biggest weakness isn't bad hand cavalry
-a lot of work and testing to properly nerf/balance spahis without removing their uniqueness and there are bigger problems we need to fix atm in my opinion
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Infinite 5 Spahi shipment in age 4 would be nice

... and very logical when we consider, that all other civ-uniqe units have some sort of infinite source
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Well they already have the infinitive great bombard shippment what is kinda unique
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Lukas_L99 wrote:It could probably be fun, I agree, but it would mean 2 things:
-Ottos would still be kinda bad vs civs with high pop armies like france or dutch, their biggest weakness isn't bad hand cavalry
-a lot of work and testing to properly nerf/balance spahis without removing their uniqueness and there are bigger problems we need to fix atm in my opinion

Yeah but their hand cav is only avarage/under avarage so it would at least buff them
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Make spahis cost 600f then?
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supernapoleon wrote:
Lukas_L99 wrote:It could probably be fun, I agree, but it would mean 2 things:
-Ottos would still be kinda bad vs civs with high pop armies like france or dutch, their biggest weakness isn't bad hand cavalry
-a lot of work and testing to properly nerf/balance spahis without removing their uniqueness and there are bigger problems we need to fix atm in my opinion

Yeah but their hand cav is only avarage/under avarage so it would at least buff them

their hand cav isn't bad, otto hus->ports hus
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give Ottomans Urumi. problem solved
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OliverP wrote:give Ottomans Urumi. problem solved


shortcut humor :lol:
H2O proved today on stream that one can trade 1 urumi for 50+ yumi and 10 ashi in a fight. Let's not make Otto even more lame.
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Yeah 90% of replies is shit here
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supernapoleon wrote:Yeah 90% of replies are shit here
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You can train spahi for 333 food in this patch- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0JUjA16OV4 xd
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supernapoleon wrote:Yeah 90% of replies is shit here

I wonder why
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dicktator_ wrote:
supernapoleon wrote:Yeah 90% of replies is shit here

I wonder why

Not sure what you mean or what you are reffering to
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supernapoleon wrote:
dicktator_ wrote:
supernapoleon wrote:Yeah 90% of replies is shit here

I wonder why

Not sure what you mean or what you are reffering to

maybe he means shit post leads to shit replies :hmm:
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_NiceKING_ wrote:maybe he means shit post leads to shit replies :hmm:

I didn't attempt to shit post at all. I wanted to put my own ideas into the development process of the patch and therefore to help the patch team and the community. However I didn't expect that so much troll would come. As a result of it I won't help at all in future projects
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