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Cavalry Archers

Posted: 29 Mar 2017, 13:35
by dthrill_08
Hi all,

I had a NR50 yesterday and my opponent was a French. I know French are one of the better classes and i had no business fighting them with Ottoman but how is it possible his Gendarme just destroyed my Calvary Archers? Don't they have a 30% melee resist? Would they destroy Russian C. Archer's too since I think they have higher HP and Att than Ottoman one? I think I need to start playing Germans against French Noobs.

Re: Calvary Archers

Posted: 29 Mar 2017, 14:18
by Darwin_
Gendarmes>"everything". Cav archers are one of their better counters, but gendarmes are just so efficient compared to cav archers cost and population wise, that it doesn't seem to matter.

Re: Calvary Archers

Posted: 29 Mar 2017, 14:23
by dthrill_08
I made instant Calvary Archers to protect my Abus Guns from his Gendarmes. For being so bulky and slow, I feel they get into position easier than Hussar's and Lancers.

Re: Calvary Archers

Posted: 29 Mar 2017, 16:51
by dicktator_
Well two options for countering RE gends. First one is where u go hussar Jan or hussar CA (hussars block the gends while jans or CA kill them. Gends will rape anything they get into melee with so u need something to block). You have to be much faster and better than your opponent for this to work. Second option is where you just spam walls and towers and camp ultra hard with abus Jan or abus ca. This is probably better. If you lose make sure to ask your opponent how he's going to sleep at night knowing he just played France against Otto in treaty, or flame him in a similar way. The best option against RE France is to just mirror them tbh. Germany gets owned too.

Re: Calvary Archers

Posted: 29 Mar 2017, 17:41
by dthrill_08
dicktator_ wrote:Well two options for countering RE gends. First one is where u go hussar Jan or hussar CA (hussars block the gends while jans or CA kill them. Gends will rape anything they get into melee with so u need something to block). You have to be much faster and better than your opponent for this to work. Second option is where you just spam walls and towers and camp ultra hard with abus Jan or abus ca. This is probably better. If you lose make sure to ask your opponent how he's going to sleep at night knowing he just played France against Otto in treaty, or flame him in a similar way. The best option against RE France is to just mirror them tbh. Germany gets owned too.


Doppes are a better option at least. I really dont know why I faced him. I should've known better lol. How about Portugese? I think I should just master Brits. They seem to be well rounded with having Musks with 400+ hp and high attack, plus strong Strong Hussar and Dragoons.

Re: Calvary Archers

Posted: 29 Mar 2017, 18:19
by _NiceKING_
Gends+Skirms+art rape everything

Re: Calvary Archers

Posted: 29 Mar 2017, 19:08
by JakeyBoyTH
- Jakey's Guides -
How to beat RE france on equal skill level

- Be Germany (British do pretty ok if you use them right, Ports are ok too)
- Be Japan
- OOS
- Lag Hack

Re: Calvary Archers

Posted: 29 Mar 2017, 19:18
by _NiceKING_
on equal skill level you can beat RE france only with RE france.
Japan can win only if their Daimyo and Tokugawa somehow get into the enemy's city :mrgreen:

Re: Calvary Archers

Posted: 29 Mar 2017, 21:04
by supernapoleon
_NiceKING_ wrote:on equal skill level you can beat RE france only with RE france.
Japan can win only if their Daimyo and Tokugawa somehow get into the enemy's city :mrgreen:

Export trade --->rape him with hotamatos

Re: Cavalry Archers

Posted: 29 Mar 2017, 21:05
by gibson
Iv heard soiux can beat French

Re: Calvary Archers

Posted: 29 Mar 2017, 22:09
by pecelot
supernapoleon wrote:
_NiceKING_ wrote:on equal skill level you can beat RE france only with RE france.
Japan can win only if their Daimyo and Tokugawa somehow get into the enemy's city :mrgreen:

Export trade --->rape him with hotamatos

hot tomatoes? :huh:

Re: Cavalry Archers

Posted: 30 Mar 2017, 01:06
by Zhanson10
japan easily beats france

Re: Cavalry Archers

Posted: 30 Mar 2017, 01:25
by _NiceKING_
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Re: Cavalry Archers

Posted: 30 Mar 2017, 03:42
by Lukas_L99
It's funny how people think RE France only consists of Gendarmes

Re: Calvary Archers

Posted: 30 Mar 2017, 06:04
by NoName
JakeyBoyTH wrote:- Jakey's Guides -
How to beat RE france on equal skill level

- Be Germany (British do pretty ok if you use them right, Ports are ok too)
- Be Japan
- OOS
- Lag Hack


Add a couple more lines:
- lag switch (idk if it go under lag hack)
- play nr40 (with blockade enabled) research it in imperial and disable furtrade (not recommended strat, might backfire)

Re: Cavalry Archers

Posted: 30 Mar 2017, 08:06
by zoom
Pro tip:

– "Irregulars" home city shipment now instead decreases the population cost of Cavalry Archers from 2 to 1.

Re: Calvary Archers

Posted: 30 Mar 2017, 08:16
by Gichtenlord
pecelot wrote:
supernapoleon wrote:
_NiceKING_ wrote:on equal skill level you can beat RE france only with RE france.
Japan can win only if their Daimyo and Tokugawa somehow get into the enemy's city :mrgreen:

Export trade --->rape him with hotamatos

hot tomatoes? :huh:

Haha

Re: Calvary Archers

Posted: 30 Mar 2017, 09:48
by QueenOfdestiny
JakeyBoyTH wrote:- Jakey's Guides -
How to beat RE france on equal skill level

- Be Germany (British do pretty ok if you use them right, Ports are ok too)
- Be Japan
- OOS
- Lag Hack

On ori just be me...!



And yes you need to block like hus in front and can with Jan's in back works pretty well but also what dick said you need to be better and faster then your opponent

Re: Cavalry Archers

Posted: 30 Mar 2017, 11:55
by dthrill_08
zoom wrote:Pro tip:

– "Irregulars" home city shipment now instead decreases the population cost of Cavalry Archers from 2 to 1.


That would be great except I don't play TAD lol.

Re: Cavalry Archers

Posted: 30 Mar 2017, 12:14
by deuxballesman
If you don't play tad cuirs are much less worrysome cause more expensive and train slower. And without furtrade and all French are good still but not sure if they are top civ.

Re: Cavalry Archers

Posted: 30 Mar 2017, 14:36
by pecelot
On the other hand, on vanilla you have a smaller competition — no Japan or China to contest the OP-ness of France!

Re: Cavalry Archers

Posted: 30 Mar 2017, 14:42
by Googol
On vanilla you just 2 rax jan nr games and win rofl.

Re: Cavalry Archers

Posted: 30 Mar 2017, 14:49
by dthrill_08
Googol wrote:On vanilla you just 2 rax jan nr games and win rofl.


That didn't work. His Skimishers just shred me apart and everytime I made Abus, Falcon and Cavalry Archers (to defend Art), his Gende would just destroy everything. Russian C. Archer are so good tho! They have like 650HP and I noticed they held their own against German Drops.

Re: Cavalry Archers

Posted: 30 Mar 2017, 14:59
by Googol
dthrill_08 wrote:
Googol wrote:On vanilla you just 2 rax jan nr games and win rofl.


That didn't work. His Skimishers just shred me apart and everytime I made Abus, Falcon and Cavalry Archers (to defend Art), his Gende would just destroy everything. Russian C. Archer are so good tho! They have like 650HP and I noticed they held their own against German Drops.


I think you didn´t get my point.

Re: Cavalry Archers

Posted: 30 Mar 2017, 15:21
by dthrill_08
Googol wrote:
dthrill_08 wrote:
Googol wrote:On vanilla you just 2 rax jan nr games and win rofl.


That didn't work. His Skimishers just shred me apart and everytime I made Abus, Falcon and Cavalry Archers (to defend Art), his Gende would just destroy everything. Russian C. Archer are so good tho! They have like 650HP and I noticed they held their own against German Drops.


I think you didn´t get my point.


I dont even know what "just 2 rax jan nr games and win" mean!