It could be the best wall for nr 55 ? XD

[Acolyte]

[tedere12]

hot

[Hazza54321]

lol nr55 looks like alot of fun

[pecelot]

Aren't those just random and pretty much useless Aztec pillars that seem more dignified surrounded by peasant grey European walls?

[Kaiserklein]

It's not useless, it's lame shit, makes units path so bad and you can camp forever in this because pillars can't be mortared easily. Just standard nr 55 garbage

[Gendarme]

It's not useless, it's lame shit, makes units path so bad and you can camp forever in this because pillars can't be mortared easily. Just standard nr 55 garbage

Queen, is that you?

[sc]

Not sure if I'm missing a reference or something, but this is REALLY bad for the defender. Mortar splash dmg will wreck nearby units. I know this is the case for units next to walls being mortared. I'm not 100% about splash dmg from pillars, but I assume it's the same case as with walls.

Really bad for pathing, really bad for defender misclicking, really bad for splash dmg. Only upside as far as I can tell is that it will force attacker to clear pillars before being able to make an advancing forward base, and in that case, you are basically preparing to fail rather then focus on holding your ground and/or pushing.

If I;m missing something, please enlighten me

[Kaiserklein]

Mortars don't have splash damage. The only case where they can hit units is when your units stand under a gate. It actually works with cuirs also and probs other stuff, it's a bug I think.

Those pillars just make it impossible for your cav to kill RI, so you can camp hard.

[pecelot]

But can't you slowly siege it down? It's impossible to find good paths in those labyrinths for the defender, too.

[yemshi]

The defender makes skirm+cannon and gets away with it.

[JakeyBoyTH]

The main problem with using town dance with Aztec is that their units suck. It's far better (and OP on Orin maybe) to just wall regularly.The big problem with that game is the Iro player couldn't get any of his fat little units out. In NR55 especially you need to maintain 200 pop, not just out, but actually fighting. Unless you are port you can't do that with pillars :(. IMO Aztec town dance on Orin is more OP for teammates cause unless you are good you can't push.

[Hazza54321]

But can't you slowly siege it down? It's impossible to find good paths in those labyrinths for the defender, too.

should just call it nr24hrs then

[JakeyBoyTH]

But can't you slowly siege it down? It's impossible to find good paths in those labyrinths for the defender, too.

Yeah you need a decent ranged civ for it to be effective. Hand cav is very bad in NR55 anyway

[dicktator_]

But can't you slowly siege it down? It's impossible to find good paths in those labyrinths for the defender, too.

Yeah you need a decent ranged civ for it to be effective. Hand cav is very bad in NR55 anyway

Right. On a map where, in the fighting area, it is impossible to build flank walls, hand cav is bad. Sure.

[JakeyBoyTH]

But can't you slowly siege it down? It's impossible to find good paths in those labyrinths for the defender, too.

Yeah you need a decent ranged civ for it to be effective. Hand cav is very bad in NR55 anyway

Right. On a map where, in the fighting area, it is impossible to build flank walls, hand cav is bad. Sure.

All they are doing is rushing towards goons and skirm. They die too much before they do anything,

[dicktator_]

All they are doing is rushing towards goons and skirm. They die too much before they do anything,

Maybe if the guy is hardcore camping that's true but in a normal high lvl ori 55 game mixing ~10 cav can be really good against guys that go pure range. Basically you're putting him on the back foot, forcing him to make goons and pushing his army back, which in turn makes culv micro a lot more difficult for the guy not making any hand cav. This is true in general treaty but even more so on orinoco because the inability to make flank walls on the crossing will open more opportunities to flank his artillery. The initial trades might not be 100% cost effective but the long term effect of forcing anticav and keeping him on the back foot will usually net more resources. Obviously if he has 20+ goon handcav becomes bad, but then you'll be destroying him in skirm trades.

[pecelot]

But can't you slowly siege it down? It's impossible to find good paths in those labyrinths for the defender, too.

Yeah you need a decent ranged civ for it to be effective. Hand cav is very bad in NR55 anyway

Town dance is kinda bad, right

[QueenOfdestiny]

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[Kaiserklein]

But can't you slowly siege it down? It's impossible to find good paths in those labyrinths for the defender, too.

Attack move can find some good path for you

[pecelot]

And some bugs, too.

[Acolyte]

[Kaiserklein]

And some bugs, too.

It's always laggy and buggy in those shitty 3v3 nr 55 games anyway, and pillars just make it worse

Actully, its a good camping strategy utile the other team resign
Yes, the hand cav are useless in that kind of situation, british bowman and culv + dragoons it seem the perfect way to camp like 2 hours inside of those pillar wall

low

[JakeyBoyTH]

And some bugs, too.

It's always laggy and buggy in those shitty 3v3 nr 55 games anyway, and pillars just make it worse

Actully, its a good camping strategy utile the other team resign
Yes, the hand cav are useless in that kind of situation, british bowman and culv + dragoons it seem the perfect way to camp like 2 hours inside of those pillar wall

low

get off kaisers account queen

[QueenOfdestiny]

And some bugs, too.

It's always laggy and buggy in those shitty 3v3 nr 55 games anyway, and pillars just make it worse

Actully, its a good camping strategy utile the other team resign
Yes, the hand cav are useless in that kind of situation, british bowman and culv + dragoons it seem the perfect way to camp like 2 hours inside of those pillar wall

low

get off kaisers account queen

Get a girlfriend

[eulergauss]

isnt nr40 enough???