why people play treaty?

[Googol]

@Googol SHOW 'EM HOW WE PLAY FFA

Play france, boom. spam @Gendarme

[Gendarme]

If only you could spam more me IRL. It would be such a great thing to do.

[Googol]

If only you could spam more me IRL. It would be such a great thing to do.

Come to prague, drink 10 beers with me and i can see you 10 times np.

[Gendarme]

I'll probably do that one day. Count on it.

[Papist]

I deleted the poll because that's just flaming. I will allow the thread to stay open (assuming people can behave), because I think the treaty community should have a chance to push back against stuff like this.

[TheArtofWars]

Treaty and sup debate shows the mentality of why racism exists. One side thinks sup is superior while the other side thinks treaty is superior when it doesn't really matter.

I play treaty because it is fun.

[Papist]

It should be removed as a game option, but should instead be integrated into maps IMO.

While I think treaty can be fun, I definitely think that sup takes overall more skill and is an overall harder gamemode. I don't want Aoe3:DE to advertise treaty stuff because I dont think that it is healthy for the game to have two very separate communities.

I don't understand why people frame this as some sort of zero sum game, where one game mode's gain is another's loss. Unless you are assuming that all the TR players would immediately jump over to Sup if treaty were removed, the existence of treaty has zero effect on your gaming experience - it is not as though there are a limited number of changes to go around during development or something.

And if you are making that assumption, why? If base building and big fights are what treaty players enjoy about the game, what's to stop them from leaving for other games if it were taken away? All removing treaty would do is reduce the number of people playing AoE3. But hold on, let us assume for a moment that it would accomplish what you want it to - would you seriously want to take away a feature that others enjoy simply to improve your own experience?

The Sup players' (I myself am a Sup player, but I think you get my point) disdain for treaty is not rooted at logic, it is rooted in emotion. They don't like it, aren't good at it, have had bad experiences playing it in the past, or any combination of the 3, so they actively crusade against all the people who do enjoy it. The whole phenomenon is actually strangely reminiscent of the crusade against water (wanting age 3 culverins to hard counter age 4 warships, etc.) - it doesn't enhance my experience; therefore it needs to be gutted.

[Lukas_L99]

I'm a Sergeant, PR15. Nothing too special.

In treaty I am a PR0. I play a lot more carelessly, don't care whether or not I win or lose, and I enjoy fighting noobs who cannot Micro.

Supremacy is still vastly superior, but hey, some diversity never hurt anybody :).

Yeah, in sup youre PR 15 while in treaty you actually got a negative PR.

I don't want Aoe3:DE to advertise treaty stuff because I dont think that it is healthy for the game to have two very separate communities.

What is this nonsense? How are the communities seperated? We got many users on this page, most only playing sup but also pure treaty players. I don't see how the community is divided when everyone is using the same forums.

Also if treaty was removed, the majority of treaty players would just leave the game. They won't start sup just cause treaty is gone, the community would just become even smaller.

[Papist]

Treaty and sup debate shows the mentality of why racism exists. One side thinks sup is superior while the other side thinks treaty is superior when it doesn't really matter.

I play treaty because it is fun.

No, this is actually a pretty one-sided debate; I don't see any treaty players arguing treaty is "superior".

[TheArtofWars]

Treaty and sup debate shows the mentality of why racism exists. One side thinks sup is superior while the other side thinks treaty is superior when it doesn't really matter.

I play treaty because it is fun.

No, this is actually a pretty one-sided debate; I don't see any treaty players arguing treaty is "superior".

I've been playing since 2007 and I distinctly remember Troy100pc whispering me and saying "hey man join the NR tourney to help the treaty tourney and to show the sup community we're not a joke" NR 40 players thought do think they are superior to SUP players in treaty which I have no idea if it's true or not because how can you know?

I guess the moral of the story is I think I know the AOE3 community a little more than most.

[Papist]

I've been playing since 2007 and I distinctly remember Troy100pc whispering me and saying "hey man join the NR tourney to help the treaty tourney and to show the sup community we're not a joke" NR 40 players thought do think they are superior to SUP players in treaty which I have no idea if it's true or not because how can you know?

I guess the moral of the story is I think I know the AOE3 community a little more than most.

Of course treaty players are better at treaty than sup players, lol. That's not even disputed anymore (except by some very stupid people, none of whom are highly-ranked in either game mode).

The point I was addressing was players claiming that their game mode was superior. I think I saw a treaty player make this claim once on agecomm like 7 years, but that's it. Whereas I see sup players make it all the time.

[deleted_user]

@mods, its fucking disgusting and disrespectf that you guys removed my poll, who did it?

[Gendarme]

It's disgusting and disrespectf that you don't bother reading the posts in your own thread.

[TheArtofWars]

Unless you're already a top treaty player the following is true This is just because the top tier treaty players just have good PC's and internet connection but for anyone else who wants to practice well good luck with that......

For everyone else..... Treaty is basically late lag hell and people who will drop out at 40 min if you're playing team games. Those who have the patience for all of that can make treaty into a great game mode but for new players a good treaty experience doesn't exist. They will see players drop out or it will lag beyond belief.

The hate on treaty isn't hatred toward any player but their experience playing it and the pain of wasting time.

[deleted_user]

It's disgusting and disrespectf that you don't bother reading the posts in your own thread.

Its just poor and pointless. It didnt contain any flame?

[Papist]

@mods, its fucking disgusting and disrespectf that you guys removed my poll, who did it?

Idk breeze, who dunnit?

I deleted the poll because that's just flaming. I will allow the thread to stay open (assuming people can behave), because I think the treaty community should have a chance to push back against stuff like this.

[Gendarme]

Perhaps. My point was just that you are asking who deleted it even though Papist wrote that he did it a few posts earlier.

[deleted_user]

@mods, its fucking disgusting and disrespectf that you guys removed my poll, who did it?

Idk breeze, who dunnit?

I deleted the poll because that's just flaming. I will allow the thread to stay open (assuming people can behave), because I think the treaty community should have a chance to push back against stuff like this.

Nice played, I think there is better things to do than showing your social life problems over here, just saying.

[Papist]

@mods, its fucking disgusting and disrespectf that you guys removed my poll, who did it?

Idk breeze, who dunnit?

I deleted the poll because that's just flaming. I will allow the thread to stay open (assuming people can behave), because I think the treaty community should have a chance to push back against stuff like this.

Nice played, I think there is better things to do than showing your social life problems over here, just saying.

Like reigning in your shitposting? I couldn't agree more.

[deleted_user]

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@mods, its fucking disgusting and disrespectf that you guys removed my poll, who did it?

Idk breeze, who dunnit?

I deleted the poll because that's just flaming. I will allow the thread to stay open (assuming people can behave), because I think the treaty community should have a chance to push back against stuff like this.

Nice played, I think there is better things to do than showing your social life problems over here, just saying.

Like reigning in your shitposting? I couldn't agree more.

How is it shitposting ? I dont even know if ure playing aoe3.. i dont even know who you are, I been playin on eso for years and I didnt see you in any games? Im also a treaty player and a few mates just asked me to make thread here? And i just did it for them?

Ps : get relax, breath relaxly

[TheArtofWars]

@deleted_user5

You're not going to beat the Papist bro just quit while you're ahead lol

[Gichtenlord]

It took breeze hours to figure out such an well thought out poll...How dare you papist!

[NyxAchlys9]

@deleted_user5

You're not going to beat the Papist bro just quit while you're ahead lol

ok diarouga

[TheArtofWars]

@deleted_user5

You're not going to beat the Papist bro just quit while you're ahead lol

ok diarouga

Well trying to beat a mod is usually gg. I've been on a lot of forums to know this.

[Papist]

How is it shitposting ? I dont even know if ure playing aoe3.. i dont even know who you are, I been playin on eso for years and I didnt see you in any games? Im also a treaty player and a few mates just asked me to make thread here? And i just did it for them?

Ps : get relax, breath relaxly

Ok, serious response

Your poll responses were insulting to treaty players, so I took them down. I left the thread open because I believe there is room for an actual discussion. I'm not sure what my activity on ESO has to do with anything; I obviously wouldn't be in any of your games since you're about 10 PR points higher than me, and I haven't regularly played rated games in years.