Nr20 Tournament???

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_NiceKING_ wrote:
princeofcarthage wrote:a pr32+ top 10 probably in nr40 ( won't name ) lost port vs france( no cruis ) a couple days back^^

RE france is very strong in TR even without cuirs :P

Not in nr20, cruis might be only saving grace for france in nr20, ports should just obliterate france in 20 cruis or no cruis.
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princeofcarthage wrote:
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princeofcarthage wrote:a pr32+ top 10 probably in nr40 ( won't name ) lost port vs france( no cruis ) a couple days back^^

RE france is very strong in TR even without cuirs :P

Not in nr20, cruis might be only saving grace for france in nr20, ports should just obliterate france in 20 cruis or no cruis.

well I meant tr40 since u were talking about it
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Not in nr20, cruis might be only saving grace for france in nr20, ports should just obliterate france in 20 cruis or no cruis.

well I meant tr40 since u were talking about it
nope, read again
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well I meant tr40 since u were talking about it
nope, read again

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nope, read again

did

Ok what i meant was the guy I am talking about lost a nr20 port vs france and he is is probably top10/tier 1 in nr40. Just making a point that dick might be generalizing his statement a bit too much
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who was it? collect1ion?
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Well you'd have to ban port and Japan in order to see any other civs played, but it might be interesting.
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Japan actually maybe just about fine, china port brit more, china without old han reforms is also bit on weaker side actually
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Japan is stupid op in tr20 lol, on same level as china. Tier list imo would be something like this, not including revo/all in strats
Tier 1 - Japan/China
Tier 2 - Port/Brit/France (France is weird because their military is stupid op but they're slow)
Tier 3 - Iro/Russia/Aztec/German/Dutch
Tier 4 - Otto/India/Spain
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_NiceKING_ wrote:who was it? collect1ion?


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He might talk about me. I was playing with a 2nd lt vs him and matty. Double Port vs Rus / Fr.
We did the nearly the whole time doublefight and feeding each other. So its kinda wired to call this a lose vs Fr.
But i still wonder how we lost this game ^_° with K/D of 1.28 and 2.21.
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collect1onn wrote:
_NiceKING_ wrote:who was it? collect1ion?


@_NiceKING_
He might talk about me. I was playing with a 2nd lt vs him and matty. Double Port vs Rus / Fr.
We did the nearly the whole time doublefight and feeding each other. So its kinda wired to call this a lose vs Fr.
But i still wonder how we lost this game ^_° with K/D of 1.28 and 2.21.
No lol, he was just my some frnd smurfing, won't tell real acc but i can guarantee you he is pr 26-27, still thats no excuse for losing double port vs fr and russ. Nothing vs you just trying to say it's not that easy as ppl make it seem/or make us seem bad.
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dicktator_ wrote:Japan is stupid op in tr20 lol, on same level as china. Tier list imo would be something like this, not including revo/all in strats
Tier 1 - Japan/China
Tier 2 - Port/Brit/France (France is weird because their military is stupid op but they're slow)
Tier 3 - Iro/Russia/Aztec/German/Dutch
Tier 4 - Otto/India/Spain

considering we have only like 2 real good japan players atm in nr20 and you won't have anyone of your skill to fight atm I find it hard to rate japan above brit/port,
france is way way too slow on non deccan maps (1v1) to compete anywhere near brit or port imo
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dicktator_ wrote:Japan is stupid op in tr20 lol, on same level as china. Tier list imo would be something like this, not including revo/all in strats
Tier 1 - Japan/China
Tier 2 - Port/Brit/France (France is weird because their military is stupid op but they're slow)
Tier 3 - Iro/Russia/Aztec/German/Dutch
Tier 4 - Otto/India/Spain


Why do you rank Russia so low?
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princeofcarthage wrote:
collect1onn wrote:
_NiceKING_ wrote:who was it? collect1ion?


@_NiceKING_
He might talk about me. I was playing with a 2nd lt vs him and matty. Double Port vs Rus / Fr.
We did the nearly the whole time doublefight and feeding each other. So its kinda wired to call this a lose vs Fr.
But i still wonder how we lost this game ^_° with K/D of 1.28 and 2.21.

No lol, he was just my some frnd smurfing,

What you wanna say? ^^

That it is not me or you were smurfing a mate?
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Papist wrote:
dicktator_ wrote:Japan is stupid op in tr20 lol, on same level as china. Tier list imo would be something like this, not including revo/all in strats
Tier 1 - Japan/China
Tier 2 - Port/Brit/France (France is weird because their military is stupid op but they're slow)
Tier 3 - Iro/Russia/Aztec/German/Dutch
Tier 4 - Otto/India/Spain


Why do you rank Russia so low?

They just can't beat any of the tier two Civs. Brit/port are as fast ad Russia and with better militaries/eco. To clarify tier 1 is the faceroll tier, tier 2 is op tier, tier 3 is mid tier, and tier 4 is the weak tier.

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dicktator_ wrote:Japan is stupid op in tr20 lol, on same level as china. Tier list imo would be something like this, not including revo/all in strats
Tier 1 - Japan/China
Tier 2 - Port/Brit/France (France is weird because their military is stupid op but they're slow)
Tier 3 - Iro/Russia/Aztec/German/Dutch
Tier 4 - Otto/India/Spain

considering we have only like 2 real good japan players atm in nr20 and you won't have anyone of your skill to fight atm I find it hard to rate japan above brit/port,
france is way way too slow on non deccan maps (1v1) to compete anywhere near brit or port imo

Nothing beats a yumi/club/flaming start except for old Han imo. France is slow but they can win if they wall hard.
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No lol, he was just my some frnd smurfing,

What you wanna say? ^^

That it is not me or you were smurfing a mate?

Your mate pr 22/23 guy was a smurf... he was 26/27 and for a fact I know who it was lol
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dicktator_ wrote:
princeofcarthage wrote:
dicktator_ wrote:Japan is stupid op in tr20 lol, on same level as china. Tier list imo would be something like this, not including revo/all in strats
Tier 1 - Japan/China
Tier 2 - Port/Brit/France (France is weird because their military is stupid op but they're slow)
Tier 3 - Iro/Russia/Aztec/German/Dutch
Tier 4 - Otto/India/Spain

considering we have only like 2 real good japan players atm in nr20 and you won't have anyone of your skill to fight atm I find it hard to rate japan above brit/port,
france is way way too slow on non deccan maps (1v1) to compete anywhere near brit or port imo

Nothing beats a yumi/club/flaming start except for old Han imo. France is slow but they can win if they wall hard.
old han doesnt beat yumi club flaming arrow. In fact it looses to it pretty hard.
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Nothing beats a yumi/club/flaming start except for old Han imo. France is slow but they can win if they wall hard.
old han doesnt beat yumi club flaming arrow. In fact it looses to it pretty hard.

China would probably need hand mortars as well, btw I was factoring cost efficiency and chinas superior eco when I said that. Even so I can still see Japan vs China being close or China losing.
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Gendarmes should be banned imo. France should be fine without them
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Nr20 is the optimal mix of micro, macro, team play and strategy. A lot of 30+ minute players look to reduce the game purely to skill and do away with strategy, you cannot afford to do this in 20 min. It's something closer to rush except your team needn't straight up fail like in many rush games through a weak link. A good commander will take a team to victory where it might seem like it was impossible. A tourney would be a tricky thing imo, I don't much like 1v1 myself. Maybe some league or pre-made team idea could work better
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supernapoleon wrote:Gendarmes should be banned imo. France should be fine without them

On re they are already banner in nr20 still france is op after certain point
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