Right of speech and democracy in holland

[deleted_user]

I heard democracy is so op in holland nowadays, need to learn more democracy lessons from holland


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[lejend]

Probably just Rutte acting very tough so as not to lose the election to Wilders, the True and Rightful Prime Minister of the Netherlands. Coalition shmoalition. The people have spoken.

[Laurence Drake]

minority rule ftw

[kami_ryu]

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[Jam]

Obviously the answer is yes.

[momuuu]

Im happy to see breeze is blindly following the authorities in Turkey. Good luck with your 'democracy'.

[deleted_user]

Yes. Is biting people first step in the democracy lesson of holland?

[momuuu]

I dont even know what the fuck you are talking about. I do know turkey tried to blackmail the netherlands and then called us fascists and the centre of nazis. So good job ridiculing yourself.

[JakeyBoyTH]

Im happy to see breeze is blindly following the authorities in Turkey. Good luck with your 'democracy'.

Yes lol, Turkey is not exactly the least corrupt country in the world.

[kami_ryu]

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[momuuu]

It was quite hilarious tbh. Most of my fellow countrymen laughed at Erdogan attacking our democracy while he's trying to become a dictator.

[Dolan]

Yeah, this is what is ironic about the whole situation. Erdogan is complaining the Netherlands and Germany are not democratic enough to allow him to spread his authoritarian regime unimpededly.

What were you doing, Erdogan, when you imprisoned tens of thousands of political opponents? What is that called? Was that part of building democracy?

[momuuu]

A dutch satire medium wrote this: https://speld.nl/2017/03/12/erdogan-vra ... roordelen/

Roughly translated and summarized:

Erdogan asks imprisoned judge to convict the Netherlands
The diplomatic fued between the Netherlands and Turkey continues. President Erdogan has gone to court to have the Netherlands convicted. He has gone to a judge imprisoned in Ankara just for this case. "This imprionsed judge values the ideas of democracy and rechtstaats highly" says Erdogan. "He will undoubtedly resist against the fascism of a government that calls itself democratic."

I thought it was pretty hilarious.

[Dolan]

https://speld.nl/2017/03/12/turkse-mini ... en-lesbos/\

XD

[momuuu]

Probably just Rutte acting very tough so as not to lose the election to Wilders, the True and Rightful Prime Minister of the Netherlands. Coalition shmoalition. The people have spoken.

I just wanted to say that Geert Wilders has never been the largest party and that his idea are only supported by a small ~14% of the Netherlands, according to the polls over the past months. While that does mean he'd be the second largest party, he won't really influence or rule practically because almost all other parties directly disagree with the stuff he's saying.

[momuuu]

So here's what actually happened btw (I noticed foreign media seems to be doing a relatively poor job reporting it):

A turkish minister wanted to hold a rally in the Netherlands to win votes for the upcoming turkish referendum. There is a lot of tension between the people of the Netherlands regarding Turkish Dutchies, so for safety reasons the Dutch government decided that a large scale rally wasn't in their best interest. While discussing a potentially smaller rally or anything of the sorts with the Turkish government, the Turkish government threatened with sanctions towards the Netherlands. At that point the Dutch government decided not to let them be blackmailed. They took away the landing rights for the plane of the turkish minister flying towards the Netherlands. Another Turkish minister then tried to sneak her way from germany into Rotterdam trying to avoid authorities but failed. The police stopped her and continuously insisted that she would leave the country which she eventually did. Meanwhile the president Erdogan called the Netherlands nazis and fascists and demanded an apology (later on even intensifying some of these ridiculous insults) and the Turkish government tried to rally Dutch Turkish people to have an unlawful protest rally. Eventually the minister left and the rally was disspelled relatively peacefully. I recall reading 8 injured police officers and 6 injured protesters, with the worst injury being a broken hand from a police officer, I don't know what the fuck Breezebrothers linked up here but it seems that violence from the police was very much so justified.

That's basically what happened. All Dutch political parties praised the government (during times of election) and experts also considered the way the Dutch government acted to be completely justified.

[kami_ryu]

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[Papist]

Until Holland jails all those who publically oppose and ridicule his dictatorial regime, it will be a "fascist" state in Erdogan's eyes.

[deleted_user]

bite bite bite! democracy democracy democracy!

[edeholland]

bite bite bite! democracy democracy democracy!

What are you even talking about?

[spanky4ever]

2. page in this thread are suddenly missing?? what happened here, I wonder?? Did some mod remove it without giving any reason for WHY, og who did this?
Im tagging you, hoping you might know @edeholland

[Laurence Drake]

the servers got fucked and we lost 2 days of posts

[edeholland]

Yes, see this news post: viewtopic.php?f=27&t=10144

1 day of data was lost, all of march 14

[Dolan]

Booo

[Laurence Drake]

Booo