Zwarte Piet Discussion Thread

[deleted_user0]

I'm not arguing for dropping it. I'm not sure how much more clear I must make it. You cannot see ZP apart from its historical context and then say ooh there is no connection to racism. And when you do account for the historical context, I'm not sure how you can deny the racist roots. If you do not see this, then there isn't more that I can do for you. You say youre interested in figuring out if its actually racist, without doing any research on the topic. The way you phrase that sentence, again makes me question what you believe racism is. If you think there can only be racism with malicious intent, you are simply mistaken.

Would you say this is racist? https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/or ... f61fdd.jpg

[momuuu]

It looks like a monkey to me haha so no. But yeah I can see that being racist.

[dietschlander]

It looks like a monkey to me haha so no. But yeah I can see that being racist.

lol, isn´t that even worse then racist?

[deleted_user0]

Ye that comment just emphasised the futility of this little circlejerk. It also illustrates my point about ignorance.

[pecelot]

YouTube suggested me a certain video... lol

[spoiler=video][video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAiAyX9I6Bg[/video][/spoiler]