Anti aztec stuff
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17v doesn't bring much and I feel like azzy can decide to all in you and you just lose. With 17v you start aging up at 3:40 at least, and azzy can have 6 pikes at warhut at 4:15, 1 min before you're aged up... Sounds really risky
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Kaiserklein wrote:17v doesn't bring much and I feel like azzy can decide to all in you and you just lose. With 17v you start aging up at 3:40 at least, and azzy can have 6 pikes at warhut at 4:15, 1 min before you're aged up... Sounds really risky
Its fine i think, darwin used to always do it vs azzy to decent success
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What's even the point of aging late ?
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Any of you guys can provide recs or links of these mu´s ?. Or direct me somewhere where should i look for ?
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Googol wrote:Any of you guys can provide recs or links of these mu´s ?. Or direct me somewhere where should i look for ?
Read Aztec Guide by Garja in strategy wall?
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I think russia azzy is a good MU
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tedere12 wrote:pretty much all euro civs beat aztec in age 2 imo (not sure about russia and spain)
Even Ports? :O
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pecelot wrote:tedere12 wrote:pretty much all euro civs beat aztec in age 2 imo (not sure about russia and spain)
Even Ports? :O
especially ports
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Military-wise or with TC tankiness and CM?
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On previous EP I don't think germany could win it colonial (but probs could in age 3) just because 180 hp uhlans means they take 1 less hit from coyotes and from pumas (3 hits :O). It's actually a big deal since you're supposed to go heavy on cav against azzy.
On this EP, it's basically the same match up like on RE, so germany would win age 2. About other civs, I think dutch still struggles against azzy in age 2, but obviously less than on RE. I think spain would actually do fine in colo vs azzy just because of rods, it's really hard for azzy to beat them. Ports on RE would definitely lose in colonial, but wins on EP imo. Otto wins with jan huss on both patches, France and brits also wins (with enough food in base). I think russia loses it on RE and on current EP. So mostly, I'd say euro civs do good against azzy in colonial, but it depends on the patch and the map
On this EP, it's basically the same match up like on RE, so germany would win age 2. About other civs, I think dutch still struggles against azzy in age 2, but obviously less than on RE. I think spain would actually do fine in colo vs azzy just because of rods, it's really hard for azzy to beat them. Ports on RE would definitely lose in colonial, but wins on EP imo. Otto wins with jan huss on both patches, France and brits also wins (with enough food in base). I think russia loses it on RE and on current EP. So mostly, I'd say euro civs do good against azzy in colonial, but it depends on the patch and the map
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Hazza54321 wrote:Kaiserklein wrote:17v doesn't bring much and I feel like azzy can decide to all in you and you just lose. With 17v you start aging up at 3:40 at least, and azzy can have 6 pikes at warhut at 4:15, 1 min before you're aged up... Sounds really risky
Its fine i think, darwin used to always do it vs azzy to decent success
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Darwin_ wrote:Hazza54321 wrote:Kaiserklein wrote:17v doesn't bring much and I feel like azzy can decide to all in you and you just lose. With 17v you start aging up at 3:40 at least, and azzy can have 6 pikes at warhut at 4:15, 1 min before you're aged up... Sounds really risky
Its fine i think, darwin used to always do it vs azzy to decent success
Yeah thaddeus op
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Hazza54321 wrote:Darwin_ wrote:Hazza54321 wrote:Its fine i think, darwin used to always do it vs azzy to decent success
Yeah thaddeus op
Learnt it all from the Big Boi
But, on topic. The HP nerf on the last patch did make Uhlans die 7% faster to maces and 5% faster to coyo, but on the most recent patch Uhlan's break stats havent changed appreciably to azzy's units so I think colonial play is as viable as it is on RE. Dopp/uhlan with 8 bows seems pretty good.
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More like 10% faster to coyos (10 hits instead of 11), also 25% or 33% faster (depending on how you read it) to pumas (3 hits instead of 4). On the current EP, uhlans are basically the same against colonial azzy as they are on RE, because tanking 1 more or 1 less maces shots is not so relevant.
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Skirmishers outrange everything the Aztecs got, baby. Make skirmishers, and never have idle skirmishers. More than 100% of your APM should be skirmisher poking. The rest of the APM can go into training more skirmishers.
Pay more attention to detail.
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You actually need to go heavy on cav and not on skirms, unless azzy is age 3 and making erk i guess, but this doesn't really happen usually. So you force him into making pikes because cav>coyotes, and then you snipe them with some ri, but less ri than cav
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not sure about jan abus tho
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Imo otto usually goes jan huss vs azzy because jan abus loses to coyote + maces
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Spain also rapes azzy
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Yea the best counters to azzy are Spain, brits and otto.
Fre/ger/india also do ok but I'm not sure they have the advantage.
Honestly, I have the hardest time against brit.
Fre/ger/india also do ok but I'm not sure they have the advantage.
Honestly, I have the hardest time against brit.
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china and sioux also do good. ep ports should probably also be fine
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umeu wrote:china and sioux also do good. ep ports should probably also be fine
China get demolished and I used to think Sioux was a counter because that s what garja thinks but he s wrong.
Ports used to do fine on the previous patch but now they lose.
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ok rouga if you say so
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We can test it later if you want.
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