best civ out of these 3 against iros

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best civ out of these 3 against iros

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dutch, french or german...which of them is the best against Iroquois?
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Re: best civ out of these 3 against iros

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wc tournament rule:

Player A chooses Iroquois, Player B must choose:
Dutch, German, or France
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Dutch and german>>>iro in current meta
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Honestly for guys our level the best answer is whichever civ you are best with.
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Warno wrote:Honestly for guys our level the best answer is whichever civ you are best with.

maybe im bad with all of them? :D
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German is the best against Iroq because when you mass Ulhan then you are unbeatable.
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Uhlans are stronk, but so are CDBs. Choose one of the two. Dutch is noob civ without royal skirms.
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Often i see people saying that musket rider are not a great unit, but why so? They have just 1 less attack than goons, 10% more RR, 15 more HP and are slightly cheaper. 5 musket riders is not a great shipment but besides that they seem like a good deal, don't they? I mean uhlans should not be a bigger problem for Iro than they are for other civs :hmm:
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german vs iro: if he rush you just try to defend. if he play age 3, go directly jaeger, then blackrider and win.
mass uhlan is not the way cuz musket rider is the best goon unit.
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on EP dutch>>> all
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gamevideo113 wrote:Often i see people saying that musket rider are not a great unit, but why so? They have just 1 less attack than goons, 10% more RR, 15 more HP and are slightly cheaper. 5 musket riders is not a great shipment but besides that they seem like a good deal, don't they? I mean uhlans should not be a bigger problem for Iro than they are for other civs :hmm:

They sound like a great unit.
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Probably Germans. French and Dutch can be beaten, vs Germans is harder. But it depends on crate starts and other conditions.
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In general people seem to be in agreement that forest prowler and musket rider is an awesome skirm/goon combo. If only Iro had a 2 falc shipment as well... </3
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fei123456 wrote:Dutch and german>>>iro in current meta

a well played iro wins vs dutch. Im 90 % certain of that.
breeze wrote: they cant even guess how much f***ing piece of stupid retarded they look they are trying to give lesson to people who are over pr35 and know the best mu. im pretty sure that we need a page that only pr30+ post and then we could have a nice discussins.
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gamevideo113 wrote:Often i see people saying that musket rider are not a great unit, but why so? They have just 1 less attack than goons, 10% more RR, 15 more HP and are slightly cheaper. 5 musket riders is not a great shipment but besides that they seem like a good deal, don't they? I mean uhlans should not be a bigger problem for Iro than they are for other civs :hmm:


Also, the hp increases exponentially, because of the 15% warchief aura stacks on the whole hp, not just base.

5 mr is just as good as 5 goons tbh.
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Umeu, read what he wrote again, but slowly.
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Gendarme wrote:Umeu, read what he wrote again, but slowly.


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He asked why people call musket riders bad, not why people call them good (which is obvious from the stats he provided himself). @deleted_user
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Yeah i'm inclined to say dutch or germany.
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Gendarme wrote:He asked why people call musket riders bad, not why people call them good (which is obvious from the stats he provided himself). @deleted_user

umeu just wanted to reaffirm it and give some additionial information I think :)
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Yup
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lordraphael wrote:
fei123456 wrote:Dutch and german>>>iro in current meta

a well played iro wins vs dutch. Im 90 % certain of that.

FF? Or colo timing push?
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Early rush with 4 kanya and like 15 toma into age 3. You siege some houses kill a few vills,go for stagechoach if possible.basically You should so some dmg age up to 3 before dutch. Do some dmg again and then any eco dutch had should ne nulified and iros strongerr units will win
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Maybe town destroyer can be a good card to use against dutch.
Anyway i think the 5 mantlets shipment is often underrated and could be a good option for an age3 fight against dutch whose composition is mainly made of ranged units. Iirc 5 mantlets = 5k ranged hitpoints
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lordraphael wrote:Early rush with 4 kanya and like 15 toma into age 3. You siege some houses kill a few vills,go for stagechoach if possible.basically You should so some dmg age up to 3 before dutch. Do some dmg again and then any eco dutch had should ne nulified and iros strongerr units will win

but does 4 kanya 15 toma really hurt dutch a lot? If you're playing french, do you think you can do mass damage with 4 hussar 15 musk? (and 4 hussar>4 kanya, 15 musk>15 toma)
dutch can even try to play age 2 with ep iro, and it's not easy to deal with hussar+skirm+8 pikes, backed up by 3 banks' eco.

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