Are there any matchups you've never seen in your life?

[Jaeger]

There are 105 possible matchups. Are there any you have never seen? If you've seen them all, it's pretty cool that you can remember at least 105 different games.

What do you think are the rarest matchups?

(Diagram doesn't contain Sioux due to nub GS)

[jj0823]

Spain mirror

[Gendarme]

I am going to tell a joke and say Brit mirror.

[Kaiserklein]

There are 105 possible matchups

There are only 91 match ups. Just for the sake of nitpicking.

Then idk, probs didn't see some match ups with sioux since no one plays that civ

[edeholland]

I should find out if I have casted every matchup

I think Dutch vs Japs or Dutch vs Aztecs I have seen the least

[WickedCossack]

There are 105 possible matchups

There are only 91 match ups. Just for the sake of nitpicking.

Then idk, probs didn't see some match ups with sioux since no one plays that civ

Math Alert!

Ovi is correct, there's 105.

I can't remember them all but im convinced there's way I have not seen them all. Been around too long. Well actually I'm convinced I would've played them all aswell.

[Kaiserklein]

Ah if you take mirrors into account yeah ok

[rsy]

Playing them all is so much harder than watching them all especially playing from both sides. I've played 179 out of 196 matchups considering playing from both sides. Kinda proud of it

[Jaeger]

There are 105 possible matchups

There are only 91 match ups. Just for the sake of nitpicking.

Then idk, probs didn't see some match ups with sioux since no one plays that civ

Why not count the mirrors?

[Jaeger]

I can't remember them all but im convinced there's way I have not seen them all. Been around too long. Well actually I'm convinced I would've played them all aswell.

Oh! That would be very impressive! I was thinking of including that, but I didn't think there was anyone who actually played all of them. Maybe boneng.

[pecelot]

Dutch vs Iro? something like that. A Spain mirror I recall seeing

[deleted_user]

Probably a lot involving Iro. As long as I've been around they've either been too OP (and thus not played) or too UP (and thus not played).

[tedere12]

I've played them all except some iro mus. I had some phases where I would play a single civ only for some time till I get bored. Iro is a civ that didn't draw my attention that much (natives civs in general but I still gave the other 2 a shot).

[Jaeger]

I feel like Aztec vs Russia is a very rare matchup.

[rsy]

http://aoe3.jpcommunity.com/rating2/stats?t=age3ySP1v1

Eyeing these stats spain iro was least played on re. No wonder it's the most OP civ vs possibly most UP civ.
Also it seems jap mirror is the most played mu, surprising to me

[WickedCossack]

I can't remember them all but im convinced there's way I have not seen them all. Been around too long. Well actually I'm convinced I would've played them all aswell.

Oh! That would be very impressive! I was thinking of including that, but I didn't think there was anyone who actually played all of them. Maybe boneng.

I expect there's a surprising amount who have. You underestimate how much time some of us have wasted on this game.

[Kaiserklein]

Why not count the mirrors?

Idk just randomly assumed they are so classic

[edeholland]

Probably a lot involving Iro. As long as I've been around they've either been too OP (and thus not played) or too UP (and thus not played).

You haven't seen a lot of earlier tournaments then

[JakeyBoyTH]

Never seen a port or dutch EP mirror. Very rare.

[rickytickitembo]

Am I retarded? There are 14 civs.... sooo 14 x 14 is 196?

There are 105 possible matchups

There are only 91 match ups. Just for the sake of nitpicking.

Then idk, probs didn't see some match ups with sioux since no one plays that civ

Math Alert!

Ovi is correct, there's 105.

I can't remember them all but im convinced there's way I have not seen them all. Been around too long. Well actually I'm convinced I would've played them all aswell.

[_H2O]

find unique pairings of 14 items =

(n * (n-1))) / 2 = 14 * 13 / 2 = 91. Then add back in the mirrors, 91+14 = 105.

If you could both sides then its 91*2 + 14 = 14* 14 = 196?

[Hidddy_]

Sum from 1 to 14 is easiest that's a nice equation you found there, how'd you see that?

[deleted_user]

it's from the combinations formula: n! / [(n - r)!r!]

"number of 'n' objects taken 'r' at a time in which order does not matter"

[dicktator_]

For treaty I could actually think of a game ive played or seen played for every single matchup except for japan mirror, and I was able to make a list and remember who played and what the result was. I'm pretty sure at some point tomorrow I'm going to be doing whatever and then suddenly I'll remember a Japan mirror I saw or played.

Edit: Holy shit I completely forgot about sioux, I was looking at the graph ovi posted lol

[spoiler=list for those who care]Some of the examples are completely random and some of them are attempts to trigger people:
Aztec mirror: myself vs donorprince (i lost)
Aztec VS brit: myself vs venom (i won)
Aztec VS china: myself vs _pi (i won)
Aztec VS dutch: myself vs death12345 (i lost)
Aztec VS france: zepec vs myself (i won)
Aztec VS ger: floko vs myself (i won)
Aztec VS India: black thought vs myself (i won)
Aztec VS Iro: zepec vs milky (zepec lost)
Aztec VS Japan: myself VS lenari (i won)
Aztec VS Otto: myself vs kingownage (i lost)
Aztec VS port: myself vs floko (teamgame, think i woulda lost)
Aztec VS russia: myself vs lukas (i won)
Aztec VS spain: milky VS babs (babs won)

Brit mirror: myself VS lukas (i won)
brit VS china: myself vs gichtenlord (i lost)
brit VS dutch: pizzafreak VS myself (mixed results)
brits vs france: myself VS lukas (i lost)
brits vs ger: myself vs floko (mixed results)
brits vs india: myself vs gichtenlord (i won)
brits vs iro: floko vs lukas (floko lost)
brit vs japan: lukas vs sabusa (lukas lost apparently)
brits vs otto: storm999 vs lukas (storm999 won)
brits vs ports: me vs tanner (i lost)
brits vs russia: h2o vs myself (h2o ragequit after his culvs 360'd)
brits vs spain: me vs zepec (i won)

china mirror: lukas vs floko (tie)
china vs dutch: mongo10 vs collect1onn (collect1onn lost)
china vs france: lukas vs sabusa (lukas won)
china vs german: myself vs sabusa (i won)
china vs india: myself vs lukas (i won)
china vs iro: gichtenlord vs myself (i won)
china vs japan: lukas vs sabusa (lukas lost)
china vs otto: gichtenlord vs myself (i won)
china vs port: me vs tanner (i won)
china vs russia: lukas vs myself (i lost)
china vs spain: me vs floko (i won)

Dutch mirror: me vs lukas (i won)
dutch vs france: floko vs myself (i lost)
dutch vs german: myself vs sabusa (i won)
dutch vs india: myself vs kingownage (i lost)
dutch vs iro: myself vs lukas (i lost but team won)
dutch vs japan: me vs hazza (i won)
dutch vs otto: me vs lukas (i won)
dutch vs port: me vs tanner (i won)
dutch vs russia: me vs ajiv (i won)
dutch vs spain: me vs sergyou (lost on re won on patch iirc)

france mirror: kingownage vs sabusa (king won)
france vs ger: me vs sabusa (i won)
france vs india: me vs zepec (i won)
france vs iro: me vs lukas (i won)
france vs japan: floko vs sabusa (floko lost)
france vs otto: H2O vs gichtenlord (h2o won)
france vs ports: me vs floko (i won)
france vs russia: lukas vs floko (lukas lost)
france vs spain: lukas vs hanc0ck (lukas lost but idk how much they got fed)

ger mirror: me vs kingownage (mixed results)
ger vs india: me vs kingownage (i won)
ger vs iro: sabusa vs lukas (sabusa lost)
ger vs japan: lukas vs zepec (lukas lost)
ger vs otto: lukas vs floko (floko lost)
ger vs port: me vs tanner (i won)
ger vs russia: me vs lukas (i won)
ger vs spain: me vs floko (i won)

india mirror: me vs gichtenlord (i won)
india vs iro: kingownage vs rori_rori_rori (king was losing 1v1 but team won)
india vs japan: lukas vs zepec (lukas lost)
india vs otto: me vs gichtenlord (i won)
india vs port: me vs lukas (i won)
india vs russia: me vs lukas (mixed results)
india vs spain: me vs gichtenlord (i won)

iro mirror: storm999 vs cuabomb (storm999 won)
iro vs japan: me vs lukas (lukas quit cause lag)
iro vs otto: me vs tanner (i won)
iro vs port: lukas vs me (long 3v3 my team won)
iro vs russia: torch_72 vs ERIK_KIRE (torch_72 won lul)
iro vs spain: bager vs storm999 (storm999 won)

japan mirror: dunno
japan vs otto: sab vs me (i lost)
japan vs ports: floko vs foire (floko won)
japan vs russia: me vs lukas (my team won)
japan vs spain: zepec vs sabusa (sabusa lost)
otto mirror: me vs lukas (mixed results)
otto vs port: floko vs lukas (floko lost)
otto vs russia: me vs lukas (i won)
otto vs spain: me vs zepec (i won)

port mirror: me vs ABCXX (i lost)
port vs russia: me vs floko (i won)
port vs spain: me vs _ZOMBIE_ (i won)
russia mirror: me vs donorprince (i won team lost)
russia vs spain: me vs zepec (i won)
spain mirror: lukas vs sabusa (sabusa won one, not sure what their record is)

Sioux vs aztec: pi vs gichtenlord (pi won)
Sioux VS brits: martin vs me (i won)
sioux vs china: milky vs me (i lost)
sioux vs dutch: gichtenlord vs sabusa (gichtenlord lost)
sioux vs france: floko vs me (i won)
sioux vs german: floko vs me (i lost)
sioux vs india: zepec vs me (i lost)
sioux vs iro: zepec vs lukas (zepec lost)
sioux vs japan: me vs zepec (i won)
sioux vs otto: pi vs me (i won)
sioux vs ports: floko vs me (i lost)
sioux vs russia: pi vs me (i won)
sioux vs spain: floko vs foire (foire lost)
sioux mirror: me vs tomgr (i lost)[/spoiler]

[momuuu]

For me I cant exactly recall all iro and sioux match ups but other than that I am pretty sure Ive seen all of them at least once. Im actually sure Ive seen most iro and sioux match ups too. Not surprising after having been involved in the game for 8 years now.