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Turkey HUMMAN
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31 Aug 2017, 17:04

Gendarme wrote:I don't like the idea of changing the game if it doesn't contribute to balance or variety. Apart from the obvious changes (like the ones Garja and Jerom mentioned) I'd like to see reworks of shipments that are currently completely out of use. I think shipments are great because they bring variety, but we're still missing out on so much because a lot of the shipments are just utter shit.

Yeah i agree, most of them as interjection said "shitment" If game makes priest + natives avaible cant imagine new meta. Imagine new Aizamk streams :grin:
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01 Sep 2017, 14:06

One thing I notice is that when I see somebody who's just picked up the game streaming for the first time, they usually don't have all the good settings on.

Like they don't max zoom on, don't have gatherers per resource, weird graphics, etc

DE should pick the best options
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01 Sep 2017, 15:29

One more i thought ----> What is with the Dutch church card which gives u bank limit +2 , but reduces 10% speed on all units. Why does one have to reduce army speed in order to get more eco , just seems weird and wrong. Also, Why the hell this civ need to reach age5 to have max eco (10 banks). Idk if this is fixed in ep or no, but this thing needs a fix. Can consider this as a change for aoe:DE or even EP.
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Turkey HUMMAN
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01 Sep 2017, 15:32

When soldiers get addicted to coffee, their discipline decreases so they march slower.
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01 Sep 2017, 15:48

Traditionally those church cards come with a benefit and a drawback so I get why Dutch has to lose speed.

But given that banks are so important to Dutch it is a bit dumb, yeah

EDIT: -Fix the bug that resets the game volume when you tab out
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01 Sep 2017, 16:40

ssaraf wrote:One more i thought ----> What is with the Dutch church card which gives u bank limit +2 , but reduces 10% speed on all units. Why does one have to reduce army speed in order to get more eco , just seems weird and wrong. Also, Why the hell this civ need to reach age5 to have max eco (10 banks). Idk if this is fixed in ep or no, but this thing needs a fix. Can consider this as a change for aoe:DE or even EP.

It's nowhere near being game-breaking, Dutch eco in mid game is already nice and strong, later they get their banks to compete with other 99-vill civs.
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01 Sep 2017, 16:46

Dutch eco is bad lategame coz all other euro civs have 99vil eco , not them coz of 8 bank restriction. Also, this speed thing is a problem.
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01 Sep 2017, 18:25

Today I have combed this thread and complied all our suggestions into a document, next I will organize them, make sure the wording is good and just generally make the document presentable then I'll post about it and make some videos with my thoughts on why certain changes are important, why they should be implemented, etc etc
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01 Sep 2017, 18:56

^that'd be awesome, thanks Inter
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01 Sep 2017, 19:25

I was actually thinking, hey we are suggesting some nice changes , some bugs etc etc, if we were to (less than 10% chance of that) tell them to MS , we cant just give them this thread , we actually need a compilation of the changes in a doc to present it. And, inter did it ..yay.. OP :D

P.S ----> Even if MS doesnt incorporate them in the aoe3:DE version (coz they may look to fix the major things like cheat , ESO servers , graphics , FTj/connections issues , which take a priority over the balance changes), few of the changes can be made via next EP update. So, this doc will really help :)
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01 Sep 2017, 21:44

Interjection wrote:Today I have combed this thread and complied all our suggestions into a document


...after lord raphael did a quick "check" on it its entire content was:

1. no treaty.
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03 Sep 2017, 22:35

I've been browsing these forums for quite some time now but only now made an account to join in on the discussion. Here is my list of changes:

1. Better balacing - there are some obvious balacing issues in both rush and treaty, fixing those in both modes respectively and maybe even having different balancing sets for each mode seperatly would be cool. The patch you guys published already got a good idea of what needs to happen.

2. Better anti-cheat - pretty obvious one, doesn't need further explaination.

3. A reconnect button - this is something I haven't heard come up as much, but having a reconnect button would be an awesome addition imo. When disconnecting from a game, no matter what reason, you're gone forever. Especially for treaty games this can be a huge annoyance.

4. Bug fixing - fixing the existing and well known bugs such as the explorer glitch would be about time

5. Fixing the triggers in the scenario editor - as someone who's made quite some scenario's myself I would especially love this being fixed

6. A setting for ranked/unranked mode - just being able to choose between ranked or unranked would be easier than having to use costum maps, FFA , handicap or whatever

7. Improved ladders and medals - New medals/ladders would be cool, preventing them from being achieved by boosters should be thought about

8. Building rotator - it exists, just not officially yet

9. Better textures - although I love the original AoE III and the fact graphics will be improved is a garuntee already, still wanted to list it
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04 Sep 2017, 08:47

There should be a download page where everyone can install the most famous scenarios directly through the game and begin playing.
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04 Sep 2017, 14:47

ssaraf wrote:One more i thought ----> What is with the Dutch church card which gives u bank limit +2 , but reduces 10% speed on all units. Why does one have to reduce army speed in order to get more eco , just seems weird and wrong. Also, Why the hell this civ need to reach age5 to have max eco (10 banks). Idk if this is fixed in ep or no, but this thing needs a fix. Can consider this as a change for aoe:DE or even EP.
thats actually a fair point. i like thish
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04 Sep 2017, 22:21

Vils should auto gather from dead hunts
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Great Britain WickedCossack
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04 Sep 2017, 22:25

You're crossing that line again inter!

I think a slight rework to the PR system would be nice, I really like it despite it's massive flaws. A change to the variance could do wonders do stop new accounts flying up to pr 50 among other tweaks.
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04 Sep 2017, 22:27

Make natives great again
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Great Britain WickedCossack
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04 Sep 2017, 22:30

Rikikipu wrote:Make natives great again


Yea that would be neat since some are essentially useless and it's a cool feature of the game. You have to be really careful with how that's done though, only buff them till they are average at best.

That'd be a job for the deceased EP team that DE could then copy.
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04 Sep 2017, 23:08

TheLUCKYfighter wrote:8. Building rotator - it exists, just not officially yet


Go to 'options' in the EP launcher and it is there :flowers:
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United States of America SirCallen
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04 Sep 2017, 23:11

so... not officially yet.

smh
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Turkey HUMMAN
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05 Sep 2017, 00:11

i wouldnt mind even if natives are better than average; they are part of the map and changes map control to another level. Isn't it sad we call maps without trade routes "non tp map" even if they have native tps. However it would change meta of the game and i guess most of the pro players would not be pleased.
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05 Sep 2017, 08:31

HUMMAN wrote:. Isn't it sad we call maps without trade routes "non tp map" even if they have native tps.

No it's not as in that context "TP" refers to a trading post on the trading route.
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Turkey HUMMAN
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05 Sep 2017, 12:40

Because you wont build native anygame so you dont need to specify which tp it is in that context...
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05 Sep 2017, 15:28

Would be nice if they made the letters and numbers differ so that you can distinguish Olm from 0lm. Have been confused by it a number of times.
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05 Sep 2017, 16:59

1) anti cheat
2) esoc maps
3) balance patch

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