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edeholland wrote:
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momuuu wrote:I've visited holocaust museums, it's indeed sad. But everything can be joked about, it's a personal belief I have. I honestly even think every opinion, even an anti-semitic one, should be allowed. But there's no harm in making jokes. From the things I have read, Gendarme has only made jokes and the basis of his removal is simply memes. I don't even know why gendarme was targeted like that, as there's many staff members in that discord. Actually I do know, its because the unstable troll team callen and the ear have started a crusade against him.

Any opinion and jokes besides pool chemicals right?

I think his problem with those jokes is that they are cluttering the forum and annoying to some users, not because they are jokes that should not be allowed.
Yea it is, which was gonna bring me to the point that it kind of seems backwards to dislike a lot of none toxic content just because you aren't interested in the specific topic, but be okay with a small amount of racism.
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edeholland wrote:What is exactly wrong with the SirMusket story? :hmm:

Well let's just hope esoc isn't done with him. Letting someone else play on his acc in tourney is far from being the worst thing he's done/is still doing.
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All @Gendarme has to do is write a neat manifesto to get that promotion back.
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I think it's ok to make a joke in private about the holocaust, but online you should consider that you don't know anything about the people who are reading your posts. Maybe someone is jewish, his relatives were killed by the nazis cause they didn't follow them etc.
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gibson wrote:
benj89 wrote:At this point I just hope that people like gibson and sircallen aren't defining what's moral and what isn't, or soon enough not a single joke will be allowed on this forum. ESOC is the only online forum I check daily since a few years now, hope that won't happen

Generally speaking I don't define what's moral and whats not. Here, however, I am going to make a statement that I believe the mass extinction of an entire race is immoral. I also believe that people who appear to genuinely be antisemitic or support actual nazis ( not just calling someone a nazi cause you don't agree with them, but someone who supports the national socialist german workers party or any neo version of it) should not be on esoc staff. If you disagree with anything I just said I'll be happy to debate you about it.

I just believe that you guys are part of that loud minority of US millennials (not seen anywhere else and that I only encounter online) who get offended by anything that could potentially touch them (although never read the great uncle reference before) and loves name calling/drawing conclusions about one's points of view. Basically I believe that you guys are too sensitive and I don't consider it to be a good thing at least for men - not referring to the Nazi discussion but based on what I've read from your posts.
Now I've no idea about the content of gendarme's memes so I can't really comment further than that and surprisingly I also do believe that mass extinction of an entire race is immoral.
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I think it's fine to make racist jokes as long as everyone around you knows it's only jokes. Otherwise, you might be called a racist, and that's your own fault. So idk if Gendarme was "only joking" or not (though I don't think he was 100% joking, considering some serious stuff he said on ESOC in the past...), but at the end of the day he can only blame himself for being called a racist and thus getting kicked from the staff. He should have been more careful and joke only with close mates, or just not joke about this at all.
And well, it's then entirely up to ESOC to kick someone from their staff, if he's considered as racist. I also don't think that they kicked him directly, he was probably warned before, and decided to keep going (though I'd like to know if he actually did get a warning).
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I don't believe he was given any warning whatsoever. I could be wrong. There is no way to know, unless someone comes out and gives us more information. Which is unfortunate. Transparency has always been an issue with ESOC and the way Gendarme was handled is a continuation of that. This thread's creation is case in point.

I don't think it's worth a shit storm or anything, however I would like to hear more myself.
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benj89 wrote:
gibson wrote:
benj89 wrote:At this point I just hope that people like gibson and sircallen aren't defining what's moral and what isn't, or soon enough not a single joke will be allowed on this forum. ESOC is the only online forum I check daily since a few years now, hope that won't happen

Generally speaking I don't define what's moral and whats not. Here, however, I am going to make a statement that I believe the mass extinction of an entire race is immoral. I also believe that people who appear to genuinely be antisemitic or support actual nazis ( not just calling someone a nazi cause you don't agree with them, but someone who supports the national socialist german workers party or any neo version of it) should not be on esoc staff. If you disagree with anything I just said I'll be happy to debate you about it.

I just believe that you guys are part of that loud minority of US millennials (not seen anywhere else and that I only encounter online) who get offended by anything that could potentially touch them (although never read the great uncle reference before) and loves name calling/drawing conclusions about one's points of view. Basically I believe that you guys are too sensitive and I don't consider it to be a good thing at least for men - not referring to the Nazi discussion but based on what I've read from your posts.
Now I've no idea about the content of gendarme's memes so I can't really comment further than that and surprisingly I also do believe that mass extinction of an entire race is immoral.
I can't think of a time that iv been offended by something on the internet lol. I'm just saying it makes sense from esocs standpoint why they wouldn't want to be associated with someone who is antisemitic. I'm not calling anyone names, I call people what they seem to be based on their actions. And based on what iv seen, I can say that genderme is one of two (sirmusket being the other) people on this forum who I'm sure is a racist. Now you cant tell for sure with anyone on the internet, but when someone is constantly making comments justifying nazism and demeaning jews, far more thn the occasional joke, it makes sense to think they're racist. If I met you in real life I'd say the exact same thing. Tread careful as you're approaching being one of the loud minority of individuals who loudly criticise anyone they see condeming racism and homiphobia as being overly PC and an sjw. Strangely enough iv never met anyone like that in real life either, as most people are in touch enough with reality to realize they'll be shunned for behaving like that in real life and away from the safety of the internet.
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You've never met anyone like that in real life?

You must live in a Democratic area because most of the people I know in real life are pretty anti-PC. That doesn't make them any less human than others.
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We are all humans and can make mistakes, still i think our admins are sane guys and know what are they doing. I think everybody should at least trust a little in these decisions before whining. If they have done something wrong, i am confident they will be humble to reevaluate their decision.
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kami_ryu wrote:You've never met anyone like that in real life?

You must live in a Democratic area because most of the people I know in real life are pretty anti-PC. That doesn't make them any less human than others.

Idk if democratic or republican has much to do with being anti PC tho. I know a ton of people here in Texas who are like that and conservative. They seem to like the idea of 'saying what's on ur mind' cuz they believe Trumpet does that
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kami_ryu wrote:You've never met anyone like that in real life?

You must live in a Democratic area because most of the people I know in real life are pretty anti-PC. That doesn't make them any less human than others.
i live in one of the largest cities in Tennessee and cities tend to be more left leaning. I know tons of conservative people, but they aren't reactionist. They have logical reasons for what they believe rather than hating something just cause it's PC or cause Obama did that.
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Mr_Bramboy wrote:Because Americans have no sense of tolerance and decency. Revolt while you can and before you are silenced people.


So we are talking about someone who puts down and entire group of people and Bramboy does the same thing about Amercians.....so does this mean he needs to be removed too? x-D
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Sub0Winters wrote:
Mr_Bramboy wrote:Because Americans have no sense of tolerance and decency. Revolt while you can and before you are silenced people.


So we are talking about someone who puts down and entire group of people and Bramboy does the same thing about Amercians.....so does this mean he needs to be removed too? x-D
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Mr_Bramboy wrote:Because Americans have no sense of tolerance and decency. Revolt while you can and before you are silenced people.

Trump said he will make America great again.
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TheInvincibleJannisary wrote:
Mr_Bramboy wrote:Because Americans have no sense of tolerance and decency. Revolt while you can and before you are silenced people.

Trump said he will make America great again.

He seems to do the opposite :flowers:
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Snuden wrote:
TheInvincibleJannisary wrote:
Mr_Bramboy wrote:Because Americans have no sense of tolerance and decency. Revolt while you can and before you are silenced people.

Trump said he will make America great again.

He seems to do the opposite :flowers:

Pretty much
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A 4 year long lol-a-thon.
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Keep the thread on topic please. I'm not discussing Gendarme or Bramboy or anything like that. Let's keep trump out of this discussion.

I would like to hear peoples' thoughts on making off topic a little less visible and helping bring AOE3 content back to the front of the site. It seems that a lot of people aren't against off topic in itself, which is great to hear. We just need to make sure that AOE3 comes up on the front page more.


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kami_ryu wrote:Keep the thread on topic please. I'm not discussing Gendarme or Bramboy or anything like that. Let's keep trump out of this discussion.

I would like to hear peoples' thoughts on making off topic a little less visible and helping bring AOE3 content back to the front of the site. It seems that a lot of people aren't against off topic in itself, which is great to hear. We just need to make sure that AOE3 comes up on the front page more.

Not the thread for that either xD

On topix, I think admins made the wrong decision.
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kami_ryu wrote:Keep the thread on topic please. I'm not discussing Gendarme or Bramboy or anything like that. Let's keep trump out of this discussion.

I would like to hear peoples' thoughts on making off topic a little less visible and helping bring AOE3 content back to the front of the site. It seems that a lot of people aren't against off topic in itself, which is great to hear. We just need to make sure that AOE3 comes up on the front page more.

I think you posted this on the wrong thread bud.

Try here viewtopic.php?p=288787#p288787
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oh my bad

I'll just go ahead and warn myself for off topic spam
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kami_ryu wrote:oh my bad

I'll just go ahead and warn myself for off topic spam

naw don't go full nazi on urself lol
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yea black humor is indeed like food. some got it, some do not.
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Sorry if this is off topic but I am truly interested in this sir musket stuff.

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