single most dominant unit

[Armag] diarouga · Post by **[Armag] diarouga** » 04 Jul 2015, 12:10

shaolinstar wrote:
neuron wrote:Stats with all upgrades and cards with Brits (I might be missing the card Diarouga is talking about, but cba to make a deck for that now )

Diarouga meant the japanese card which gives you +5 range

Also the indian and the brit one.

Mimsy for President · Post by **Mimsy for President** » 04 Jul 2015, 12:18

yeah true...and Chinese :p

bart331 · Post by **bart331** » 04 Jul 2015, 12:23

incog wrote:
bart331 wrote:Easy one, aztec chief with firepit, it keeps getting revived and smashes everything in 1v1
like spies?

revive - try again

cedarfarms · Post by **cedarfarms** » 04 Jul 2015, 13:19

@method the terrible twosome gives me nightmares @ night i try not to think about them

gibson · Post by **gibson** » 04 Jul 2015, 13:38

kioa wrote:
method wrote:Shouldnt you be more worried about the terrible twosome?
Hahaha you should know that mr. farms spends his nights thinking about ways to beat us. He is currently looking for the super unit to kill everything, and its the tuck tuck tuck truck

Kioa youre too good man basically a pro

[Armag] diarouga · Post by **[Armag] diarouga** » 04 Jul 2015, 13:39

bart331 wrote:
incog wrote:like spies?
revive - try again

To revive it costs you time (even with the firepit) and you could use this time to train skulls

Papist · Post by **Papist** » 04 Jul 2015, 16:23

Hatamoto samurai (aka buffed up ronin) from the Japanese consulate is that unit. Ninjas get good multipliers, but Hatamotos have enough splash, resist, attack, and hp to outlast them.

deleted_user0 · Post by **deleted_user0** » 05 Jul 2015, 05:34

Are cons samurai even mercs?

cedarfarms · Post by **cedarfarms** » 06 Jul 2015, 07:03

actually you raise a great point umeu, because if they are not considered mercs then no other land unit would beat it 1v1 short of artillery (i think), and honestly hatamato might even be able to take down some cannons as long as they can survive the dangerous journey of dodging the cannon balls until he reaches the cannon itself.

Post by **edeholland** » 06 Jul 2015, 07:12

You can still just hit and run a hatamoto

deleted_user0 · Post by **deleted_user0** » 06 Jul 2015, 07:24

the OP stated no micro though, with micro no such unit exist. without micro its a frig (or fuchuan or ironclad) out of all units, and perhaps hatamoto if only land units.

Post by **edeholland** » 06 Jul 2015, 07:38

Imperial bombard can beat hatamoto I imagine.

momuuu · Post by **momuuu** » 06 Jul 2015, 08:34

With micro I can still imagine a howdah maybe doing the job. Not sure if it can hit n run hatamoto's though. It can probably beat its counters though, because there aren't such insane pop heavy skirms. It can probably also deal with the great bombard and obviously with cuirs/mahouts.

EDIT: I tested it and I think it just barely beats a great bombard, and it seemingly can hit and run a hatamoto.

Papist · Post by **Papist** » 06 Jul 2015, 18:19

jerom wrote:With micro I can still imagine a howdah maybe doing the job. Not sure if it can hit n run hatamoto''s though. It can probably beat its counters though, because there aren''t such insane pop heavy skirms. It can probably also deal with the great bombard and obviously with cuirs/mahouts.

EDIT: I tested it and I think it just barely beats a great bombard, and it seemingly can hit and run a hatamoto.

The only problem is that they have crappy fire animation - it takes them a while to start shooting.

momuuu · Post by **momuuu** » 06 Jul 2015, 18:20

papist wrote:
jerom wrote:With micro I can still imagine a howdah maybe doing the job. Not sure if it can hit n run hatamotos though. It can probably beat its counters though, because there arent such insane pop heavy skirms. It can probably also deal with the great bombard and obviously with cuirs/mahouts.

EDIT: I tested it and I think it just barely beats a great bombard, and it seemingly can hit and run a hatamoto.
The only problem is that they have crappy fire animation - it takes them a while to start shooting.

Its hard to practice vs the AI, but vs melee units it seems they have long enough to increase the distance by enough to take a free shot. They do have an impressive 16 range.

Good ol Ivan · Post by **Good ol Ivan** » 07 Jul 2015, 10:55

The Tommynator.
What do I win?

Mimsy for President · Post by **Mimsy for President** » 07 Jul 2015, 11:32

ivan wrote:The Tommynator.
What do I win?

A bag of Frolic

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princeofkabul · Post by **princeofkabul** » 07 Jul 2015, 15:10

jerom wrote:With micro I can still imagine a howdah maybe doing the job. Not sure if it can hit n run hatamoto''s though. It can probably beat its counters though, because there aren''t such insane pop heavy skirms. It can probably also deal with the great bombard and obviously with cuirs/mahouts.

EDIT: I tested it and I think it just barely beats a great bombard, and it seemingly can hit and run a hatamoto.

You know you can melee with howdahs right?

momuuu · Post by **momuuu** » 07 Jul 2015, 15:43

princeofkabul wrote:
jerom wrote:With micro I can still imagine a howdah maybe doing the job. Not sure if it can hit n run hatamotos though. It can probably beat its counters though, because there arent such insane pop heavy skirms. It can probably also deal with the great bombard and obviously with cuirs/mahouts.

EDIT: I tested it and I think it just barely beats a great bombard, and it seemingly can hit and run a hatamoto.
You know you can melee with howdahs right?

Yes. I even tried to circle around it in melee to delay the shot. Its still really close. Great bombard is OP.

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