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After some friendly games with Ovi, we disagreed on a couple things. Personally, I think Japan wins vs Brit pretty hard. Due to being able to stay with Brit and eventually out boom then economically and the strength of Japan's units, I think Japan wins this pretty hard. He made a case for lbow/pike pressure saying that Brit should always be able to out mass lbows against yumi early on.

Also, I think that Brit vs Spain is heavily in Brit's favor. They're able to just spam musk with a few huss and fend off the initial Spain push, or at least do enough damage that the Spanish player would have to retreat. That gives the Brit player enough time to remass in a way that Spain can't stick with.

Anyway, just curious on your guy's opinions. Brit vs Japs and Spain vs Brits.
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Post by _DB_ »

Spain lose to Brits badly, even with the lame FF.

Brit vs Japan, Brit must win this. It's the only civ that outbooms Japan eco very fast and longbow can outrange yumis. Anyway it isn't too unfair MU. It's a fair match up more on brit side.
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Brit vs Japs is just heavily map-dependent, since Japan's boom isn't as reliant on having 10k bison near your tc at all times. There's a reason why brits isn't as much of a quicksearch civ as japan is - they rely a lot more on the map actually having resources in base.

Imo it starts to go in Japan's favour once brit's hunts start to run out, be that the 6 minute, 12 minute, or 20 minute mark.
oranges.
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If brits have like 2 bisons in his base, they should win, on QS maps japan wins imo.
Spain vs brit is not even close, spain just can't win.
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sarcomere wrote:After some friendly games with Ovi, we disagreed on a couple things. Personally, I think Japan wins vs Brit pretty hard. Due to being able to stay with Brit and eventually out boom then economically and the strength of Japan''s units, I think Japan wins this pretty hard. He made a case for lbow/pike pressure saying that Brit should always be able to out mass lbows against yumi early on.?

Also, I think that Brit vs Spain is heavily in Brit''s favor. They''re able to just spam musk with a few huss and fend off the initial Spain push, or at least do enough damage that the Spanish player would have to retreat. That gives the Brit player enough time to remass in a way that Spain can''t stick with.

Anyway, just curious on your guy''s opinions. Brit vs Japs and Spain vs Brits.

British win vs Spain and Japan wins vs British. British make Japan a really hard time
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diarouga wrote:If brits have like 2 bisons in his base, they should win, on QS maps japan wins imo.
Spain vs brit is not even close, spain just can''t win.
Umeu said on a good map spain wins
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ovi12 wrote:
diarouga wrote:If brits have like 2 bisons in his base, they should win, on QS maps japan wins imo.
Spain vs brit is not even close, spain just cant win.
Umeu said on a good map spain wins
umeu must be right as he knows everything
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hazza54321 wrote:
ovi12 wrote:Umeu said on a good map spain wins
umeu must be right as he knows everything
Umeu has played a lot of spain
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ovi12 wrote:
hazza54321 wrote:umeu must be right as he knows everything
Umeu has played a lot of spain
yes but has he played alot vs a good brit
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Post by Jaeger »

hazza54321 wrote:
ovi12 wrote:Umeu has played a lot of spain
yes but has he played alot vs a good brit
Idk, but im guessing so, I hope he comes here and talks about it
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ovi12 wrote:
diarouga wrote:If brits have like 2 bisons in his base, they should win, on QS maps japan wins imo.
Spain vs brit is not even close, spain just cant win.
Umeu said on a good map spain wins
I am also a spain player (RAYQUAZA200)
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Post by Garja »

Spain can win if they get great start with treasures and the map isnt great for brits. It's very occasional, generally brits just win.
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whether spain goes ff brits already boommed hard
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Post by [Armag] diarouga »

garja wrote:Spain can win if they get great start with treasures and the map isnt great for brits. It''s very occasional, generally brits just win.
If the brit booms very hard, goes cav and send cm, you just can''t beat cav+20 mm.
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You actually can. If you scout hes only cav u wont send cannons, instead send 1000w drop a stable go vet rod skir with some goon/laclncer. Rune from the mm pop, sacrifice pikes if needed to do this, come back 1 min later and just clean it up. Pure cav is a gimmick that might work as a surprise its not a solid play
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umeu wrote:You actually can. If you scout hes only cav u wont send cannons, instead send 1000w drop a stable go vet rod skir with some goon/laclncer. Rune from the mm pop, sacrifice pikes if needed to do this, come back 1 min later and just clean it up. Pure cav is a gimmick that might work as a surprise its not a solid play

Would you eco with 5v+market or rather all in?
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Vs brits i play eco ff, assuming map is good.

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