Heavy cav for all civs

Should all civs get heavy cav?

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Wait don't they all but Aztec?(I'm silly and I don't know what that is)
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Yes! All but Aztec
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No it's good this way
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Preface/disclaimer: Let me preface this with saying it is a pointless thread and you won't get game strategy or anything else from it. So read no further if you just want to leave ur pointless whining about my pointless whining in the comments. There are a few people I have in mind but I'll stop.


So on to the thread: I THINK ALL CIVS ALMOST Should GET HEAVY CAV DO U AGREE!! Exception would be iro Aztec
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lemmings121 wrote:wtf

wtf u ! Just tick the first poll response!
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Yes all civs should have cuirs
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...all civs have heavy cav except aztecs.
Heavy cav = melee cav.
Just in nilla heavy cav means something along the lines of "expensive melee cav".
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I don't even
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ivan wrote:...all civs have heavy cav except aztecs.
Heavy cav = melee cav.
Just in nilla heavy cav means something along the lines of "expensive melee cav".



Naww the true heavy cavalry are the pride of nations, the flower of the army.

Salute the sipahi, the mamluk, the cuirassier, the stradiot, the elmeti, the mahout and the dogsoldier. They are the masters of the charge, the walls of iron and crashing force. They are the breaker of spears and shields, thousand thundering hooves carrying forward to victory and eternal glory! CHARGE!!!
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what is the point of this thread?
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India doesn't have proper heavy cav either. Sowars are too bad for a heavy cav IMO. And eles, they aren't proper either. They are just temporary killing machines. Anyway the civ is already OP and don't need a proper cav honestly.
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hazza54321 wrote:what is the point of this thread?

there is none it seems.
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umeu wrote:
ivan wrote:...all civs have heavy cav except aztecs.
Heavy cav = melee cav.
Just in nilla heavy cav means something along the lines of "expensive melee cav".

Naww the true heavy cavalry are the pride of nations, the flower of the army.

Salute the sipahi, the mamluk, the cuirassier, the stradiot, the elmeti, the mahout and the dogsoldier. They are the masters of the charge, the walls of iron and crashing force. They are the breaker of spears and shields, thousand thundering hooves carrying forward to victory and eternal glory! CHARGE!!!

indeed I salute your litany hail to one that knows!
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subzero wrote:India doesn''t have proper heavy cav either. Sowars are too bad for a heavy cav IMO. And eles, they aren''t proper either. They are just temporary killing machines. Anyway the civ is already OP and don''t need a proper cav honestly.
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subzero wrote:India doesn''t have proper heavy cav either. Sowars are too bad for a heavy cav IMO. And eles, they aren''t proper either. They are just temporary killing machines. Anyway the civ is already OP and don''t need a proper cav honestly.?

Mahouts are classified as heavy cavalry
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jerom wrote:
hazza54321 wrote:what is the point of this thread?
there is none it seems.

whats the point of you! Cant you read my preface?!?
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adderbrain5 wrote:
jerom wrote:there is none it seems.
whats the point of you! Cant you read my preface?!?
The true question is, did you have me in mind when you wrote that? Or did I exceed expectations :happytomato:
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bramboy wrote:
subzero wrote:India doesnt have proper heavy cav either. Sowars are too bad for a heavy cav IMO. And eles, they arent proper either. They are just temporary killing machines. Anyway the civ is already OP and dont need a proper cav honestly.
Mahouts are classified as heavy cavalry
Ikr, but they arent "proper" for a heavy cav. They have random pathing issues, they take years to actually start damaging and they arent too fast for this purpose. Theyre classified heavy cav, but they function like a cannon without a range which gets pwned by anti cav.
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How did they even decide something to be heavy cav? Did they take all the cav units and try to order them based on weight or something.
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bramboy wrote:
subzero wrote:India doesnt have proper heavy cav either. Sowars are too bad for a heavy cav IMO. And eles, they arent proper either. They are just temporary killing machines. Anyway the civ is already OP and dont need a proper cav honestly.?
Mahouts are classified as heavy cavalry

Id agree so are jat lancer
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jerom wrote:
adderbrain5 wrote: whats the point of you! Cant you read my preface?!?
The true question is, did you have me in mind when you wrote that? Or did I exceed expectations? :happytomato:

lol not you I must say. Youll be added to my pest list
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jerom wrote:How did they even decide something to be heavy cav? Did they take all the cav units and try to order them based on weight or something.



You heavy cavalry is for an all out charge and is expected to be able to break ranks hopefully breakthrough lines to get to baggage/ archer artillery. They are called heavy cavalry because the horses were bigger slower but stronger usually had armor and the writer is generally had heavy weapons and armor too they were not for skirmishing But more like pull back and let go full force they were kind of a one shot weapon and had to regroup for another charge whereas light cavalry like hussars could wheel and maneuver and do dashing flanking maneuver''s. Then what are ranged cavalry? they were considered light cavalry too or just ranged cavalry but let''s not forget that hussars actually used pistols often especially in the midate 1800s
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The question is obsolete since all civs expect the aztecs already got units classified as heavy cavalry.
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In the game true heavy cavalry is the following

Spahi/ sipahi xd
Mameluke
Cuirasier
Dog soldier
Lancer
Elmeti
Iron flail/ meteor hammer
Naginata rider
Jat lancer( maybe actually more light cav)
Mahout
Black rider( ironically)


Light cavalry would be
hackapell
Uhlan
Ruyter
Hussar
Cossack
Steppe rider
So war ( fucking camels)
Stradiot
And most range cav would fall under this category

Note: dragons were considered infantry and functioned as such they were just mounted for mobility .

I understand this is
Not the way game mechanics has it but I'm not talking about game mechanics if ur looking for a guide in game mechanics this isn't it lol
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subzero wrote:
bramboy wrote:Mahouts are classified as heavy cavalry
Ikr, but they arent "proper" for a heavy cav. They have random pathing issues, they take years to actually start damaging and they arent too fast for this purpose. Theyre classified heavy cav, but they function like a cannon without a range which gets pwned by anti cav.
....what
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venox wrote:The question is obsolete since all civs expect the aztecs already got units classified as heavy cavalry.

. That''s not true there are only two classifications in the game mechanics cavalry and range cavalry. skirmishers counter range cavalry and heavy infantry & range cavalry counter all cavalry both light and heavy that''s the way I understand it .if you want actual in game reference material for this look at stradiots on the saloon menu it calls them light cavalry "light cavalry from the Balkans" and I''m pretty sure it might even say the same about hussar light cavalry is for skirmishing iand flanking and quick strikes on unprotected positions unlike heavy Calvary which can be used for direct charge on front lines ...something that can charge at almost Anything And win or at least cause enough devastation to make it worth it Think about it you wouldn''t charge a few hussar into a bunch of pikes protecting a falc but you might not hesitate to charge a bunch of pikes with spahi or cuirrasier that''s because those are heavy cavalry and as such they have greater hit points and sometimes more resistance because they''re better armored but they are also slower heavy cavalry the keyword is heavy
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ivan wrote:
subzero wrote:Ikr, but they arent "proper" for a heavy cav. They have random pathing issues, they take years to actually start damaging and they arent too fast for this purpose. Theyre classified heavy cav, but they function like a cannon without a range which gets pwned by anti cav.?
....what
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yeah LOL just because one is incapable of commanding the mighty mahouts and their great beasts doesnt mean that they are ineffective theyve given me some real problems iro vs India

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