Do coyote runner suck?

Do coyote runners suck

Yes
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16%
No
53
76%
Alone yes but they are an important part of Aztec composition
6
9%
 
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Post by adderbrain5 »

The title says it all I want to know all the best players opinion. Been on the fence about this for years. They cost too much food to mass and be effective and even fully upgraded and Treaty they don't seem to work so what do you guys think.

I know they might be an important part of Aztec unit composition for their army to work effectively. I guess I'd ask you to forget that for the sake of this poll
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they are great
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What u mean "alone"?
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edeholland wrote:What u mean "alone"?

by themselves in mass
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Post by Mimsy for President »

Coyote is the most cost-effective cav next to cossack.
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Post by edeholland »

adderbrain5 wrote:
edeholland wrote:What u mean "alone"?
by themselves in mass
Then they are good in some situations, yes.
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Post by momuuu »

Coyotes are good in smaller numbers. Once you get larger armies, they suffer more from pathing issues than hussars do because youll have twice as many. Nonetheless I think theyre still good in larger numbers.
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shaolinstar wrote:Coyote is the most cost-effective cav next to cossack.

but aren''t they harder to micro ? It seems that they just don''t win against skirt unless they really outnumber them
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Does anyone justify using their upgrade cards age 2 including silent strike
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adderbrain5 wrote:Does anyone justify using their upgrade cards age 2 including silent strike
The speed/hp thing is fine, the stealth thing not so much.
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For me they just don't work. Way less tanky than normal cav because they are cheap and mass, just like steppe riders. Slower, so can't catch raids and are caught themselves. Ranged infantry has no 0.8 multipier against them. You kinda have to make them in colonial but I never make them in fortress because eagle runner knight and macehualtin combination works so well against everything.
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The misinformation is fucking real.
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Post by Garja »

They don't because they're not countered as hard as cavalry. Also they path better than cavalry and can do the same task (harrassing vills) for less cost. Also good luck in killing coyos with goons.
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They are nice. Of course they cost much food but it is worth
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Do they have a higher rate of fire than normal cav? I though flail elephents did.
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Post by Good ol Ivan »

Flail elephants and coyotes have the same ROF as most cav (1.5). Flail elephants used to have 3.0 and much more ATK originally, but ES thought they were OP and nerfed their attack while boosting their ROF. So their attack seems rather awkward.
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Why wouldn't goons kill coyots like cav ? Except a bit of overkill
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The multiplier vs them might be slightly lower.
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ivan wrote:Flail elephants and coyotes have the same ROF as most cav (1.5). Flail elephants used to have 3.0 and much more ATK originally, but ES thought they were OP and nerfed their attack while boosting their ROF. So their attack seems rather awkward.
That team card still IS op.
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kaiserklein wrote:Why wouldn''t goons kill coyots like cav ? Except a bit of overkill


You mean tons of overkill (or underkill actually)?
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Post by Kaiserklein »

Depends on the goon maker's micro really, and attack move still makes quite a good job
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Actually is attack move that fucks up the micro because it's very easy to overkill or not focus enough.
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dragoon deal 3* to hussar, 2.75* to coyote runner, but 1* to tiger claw. stupid MS.
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Post by Good ol Ivan »

Light infantry tags should be removed altogether or be exclusive for aztecs and that should be clearly pointed out. Fuck that shit of rewriting the entire system.
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Really hard to micro against those fuckers and the multipliers are a bit smaller so no they don't suck zz.
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