Best Cavalry Unit

_venox_ · Post by **_venox_** » 22 Sep 2015, 16:23

Yes 17% less damage (25 vs 30) 15.6% less hp (270 vs 320) and they cost around 3% less in villager seconds zz.

thebritish · Post by **thebritish** » 22 Sep 2015, 16:31

edeholland wrote:
thebritish wrote:that is heavy cav
They are all heavy cav

they are light cav

Wuangaga · Post by **Wuangaga** » 22 Sep 2015, 16:34

thebritish wrote:
edeholland wrote:They are all heavy cav
they are light cav

Light cav are goon-type units, but i know what you wanna say.

zoom · Post by **zoom** » 22 Sep 2015, 17:22

venox wrote:Yes 17% less damage (25 vs 30) 15.6% less hp (270 vs 320) and they cost around 3% less in villager seconds zz.

I like the part where you know neither the damage nor hitpoints of the Kanya Horseman. Furthermore, it seems you don''t realize Kanya have 30% ranged resistance.

_venox_ · Post by **_venox_** » 22 Sep 2015, 17:30

Source: http://ageofempires.wikia.com/wiki/Kanya_Horseman

momuuu · Post by **momuuu** » 22 Sep 2015, 17:36

Dont challenge the master of unit stats venox.

zoom · Post by **zoom** » 22 Sep 2015, 17:39

venox wrote:Source: http://ageofempires.wikia.com/wiki/Kanya_Horseman

Facts: 27Dmg, 285HP, 30%RR

zoom · Post by **zoom** » 22 Sep 2015, 17:41

zoom wrote:
venox wrote:Source: http://ageofempires.wikia.com/wiki/Kanya_Horseman
Facts: 27Dmg, 285HP, 30%RR

Ironically the stats you quote seem like they would be really nice, since theyd still be slightly stronger than Hussars per cost but not scale well beyond the 5% extra Fortress Age improvement.

_venox_ · Post by **_venox_** » 22 Sep 2015, 17:52

27 dmg, 285hp vs 30dmg 320hp and nearly even in villager seconds? Yes of course the Kanya is still better than the Hussar.

fei123456 · Post by **fei123456** » 22 Sep 2015, 17:54

kanya used to have 270hp 25attack, but then buffed to 285 27.
ofc kanya is weak, but it's ok with warchief aura. anyway it has 30% rr and tank more damage than hussar.

_venox_ · Post by **_venox_** » 22 Sep 2015, 17:57

Assuming that all damage dealt is ranged damage then yes the Kanya tank 7 dmg more than the Hussar for for a 3% cost difference.

anonymous123 · Post by **anonymous123** » 22 Sep 2015, 18:16

How is coyote a cavalry unit? And again this comparison seems pointless. Naginta and sowar are lancer cavalry(anti infantry cavalry) so they lose to hand combat against uhlan or hussar. You are comparing 2 different unit types with different purpose.

Wuangaga · Post by **Wuangaga** » 22 Sep 2015, 18:39

anonymous123 wrote:How is coyote a cavalry unit? And again this comparison seems pointless. Naginta and sowar are lancer cavalry(anti infantry cavalry) so they lose to hand combat against uhlan or hussar. You are comparing 2 different unit types with different purpose.

Coyotes are abstract cavalry they serve the purpose of cav just accept the fact that aztec works that way.

zoom · Post by **zoom** » 22 Sep 2015, 20:49

venox wrote:27 dmg, 285hp vs 30dmg 320hp and nearly even in villager seconds? Yes of course the Kanya is still better than the Hussar.

They aren''t nearly even in VS, and costing wood over coin is really good. Yes, the Kanya is most definitely better than the Hussar in terms of base statistics.

aufwiedersehen · Post by **aufwiedersehen** » 22 Sep 2015, 20:52

I want to know who were the 4 people who voted for steppe riders.

momuuu · Post by **momuuu** » 22 Sep 2015, 20:56

aufwiedersehen wrote:I want to know who were the 4 people who voted for steppe riders.

thats what Im wondering aswell.

Also, why does nobody like coyotes?

aufwiedersehen · Post by **aufwiedersehen** » 22 Sep 2015, 20:58

jerom wrote:
aufwiedersehen wrote:I want to know who were the 4 people who voted for steppe riders.
thats what Im wondering aswell.

Also, why does nobody like coyotes?

Coyotes pathing is bad imo when there in high numbers.

britishmusketeer · Post by **britishmusketeer** » 22 Sep 2015, 20:59

aufwiedersehen wrote:
jerom wrote:thats what Im wondering aswell.

Also, why does nobody like coyotes?

Coyotes pathing is bad imo when there in high numbers.

Its really not.

aufwiedersehen · Post by **aufwiedersehen** » 22 Sep 2015, 21:13

britishmusketeer wrote:
aufwiedersehen wrote:Coyotes pathing is bad imo when there in high numbers.
Its really not.

I said imo I dont really wanne argue tbh lol.

yurashic · Post by **yurashic** » 22 Sep 2015, 21:26

jerom wrote:
aufwiedersehen wrote:I want to know who were the 4 people who voted for steppe riders.
thats what Im wondering aswell.

Also, why does nobody like coyotes?

Because they do not work.

_venox_ · Post by **_venox_** » 23 Sep 2015, 04:59

They do work for me if massed enough. It's like with your regular cavalry: If you have too few units even regular hussars won't achieve much besides getting picked off.

Good ol Ivan · Post by **Good ol Ivan** » 23 Sep 2015, 07:08

edeholland wrote:
papist wrote:They are all single use units, so it stands to reason everyone would have a different opinion - they are all considering different situations. For example, sowars can be great against, say xbows, but leave a lot to be desired when it comes to raiding and cav fights.
But its not like you can ever choose to make either sowar or uhlan... You either make melee cav or you dont

It can be a legitimate choice in certain scenarios.
Anyone remembers/misses them "total war" custom maps?

Its just a what if question, ffs. You can argue its irrelevant as it just doesnt matter in rated/competitive games... but at the end of the day both rated and unrated, competitive and uncompetitive games are equally as irrelevant and hold the same value.

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