Cheyenne Lancers

Papist · Post by **Papist** » 21 Sep 2015, 18:25

For the first time, I noticed that Cheyenne warriors (horsemen) have a multiplier versus cavalry units. Are they actually any good as a unit? Perhaps they would be a nice surprise (since many people probably wouldn't immediately recognize them as anti cav).

Rikikipu · Post by **Rikikipu** » 21 Sep 2015, 18:37

Yeah, they have an upgrade which allow they to have a bonus against cavalry, With all the french upgrades, they are pretty unbeatable.

britishmusketeer · Post by **britishmusketeer** » 21 Sep 2015, 18:46

They are worse than hussar but are good in super late colonial when coin is out.

benj89 · Post by **benj89** » 21 Sep 2015, 19:16

cheyenne and apache are both awesome units

Mr_Bramboy · Post by **Mr_Bramboy** » 21 Sep 2015, 19:27

There's this French player called Skiwiwi who only plays French on GP and uses the Cheyenne natives. After the upgrades from the home city and the native post, his units are practically unbeatable.

Papist · Post by **Papist** » 21 Sep 2015, 19:31

bramboy wrote:There''s this French player called Skiwiwi who only plays French on GP and uses the Cheyenne natives. After the upgrades from the home city and the native post, his units are practically unbeatable.

Seems like that strat might be pretty vulnerable to a bow/pike rush tbh. What''s to stop someone from running round burning his tps?

Post by **edeholland** » 21 Sep 2015, 19:34

papist wrote:
bramboy wrote:Theres this French player called Skiwiwi who only plays French on GP and uses the Cheyenne natives. After the upgrades from the home city and the native post, his units are practically unbeatable.
Seems like that strat might be pretty vulnerable to a bow/pike rush tbh. Whats to stop someone from running round burning his tps?

ATP

purplesquid · Post by **purplesquid** » 21 Sep 2015, 19:50

edeholland wrote:
papist wrote:Seems like that strat might be pretty vulnerable to a bow/pike rush tbh. Whats to stop someone from running round burning his tps?
ATP

Yeah ATP is one of the most annoying cards to deal with. Bunch of 80(?) wood outposts scattered around the map that are also military buildings/trading posts. . .

forgrin · Post by **forgrin** » 21 Sep 2015, 20:02

Late colonial they are beasts, especially good at breaking the musk-huss stalemate as they wreck huss and don't cut into your low amount of gold from GP at least.

aligator92 · Post by **aligator92** » 21 Sep 2015, 20:06

they have wrecked me as germans because i didn't know about them and won me a game against france by killing a bunch of cuirs on a map depleted of gold

gibson · Post by **gibson** » 21 Sep 2015, 20:15

Yea Idk how to beat those really. The one time a French guy used them against me, I was Dutch, and with a few upgrades those guys just wreck ryters if you're lazy and don't micro(aka me). And started making halbs, then realized I was actually making halbs in a real rated game, and so just resigned.

aufwiedersehen · Post by **aufwiedersehen** » 21 Sep 2015, 20:41

gibson wrote:Yea Idk how to beat those really. The one time a French guy used them against me, I was Dutch, and with a few upgrades those guys just wreck ryters if you''re lazy and don''t micro(aka me). And started making halbs, then realized I was actually making halbs in a real rated game, and so just resigned.

Lol, halbs are actually buffed Pikemen and arnt so bad imo they can tank damage unlike ruyters while your skrims/musk or ruyter take out units from a range.

aufwiedersehen · Post by **aufwiedersehen** » 21 Sep 2015, 20:45

gibson wrote:Yea Idk how to beat those really. The one time a French guy used them against me, I was Dutch, and with a few upgrades those guys just wreck ryters if you''re lazy and don''t micro(aka me). And started making halbs, then realized I was actually making halbs in a real rated game, and so just resigned.

Remember that 2v2 we did, to were Dutch me Sioux and I went axe/bow you skirm, now I know why my axe riders just melted. I thought this unit was a trash hussar

gibson · Post by **gibson** » 21 Sep 2015, 20:57

aufwiedersehen wrote:
gibson wrote:Yea Idk how to beat those really. The one time a French guy used them against me, I was Dutch, and with a few upgrades those guys just wreck ryters if youre lazy and dont micro(aka me). And started making halbs, then realized I was actually making halbs in a real rated game, and so just resigned.

Remember that 2v2 we did, to were Dutch me Sioux and I went axe/bow you skirm, now I know why my axe riders just melted. I thought this unit was a trash hussar

Thats the game i was talking about lol

benj89 · Post by **benj89** » 22 Sep 2015, 02:44

gibson wrote:Yea Idk how to beat those really. The one time a French guy used them against me, I was Dutch, and with a few upgrades those guys just wreck ryters if you''re lazy and don''t micro(aka me). And started making halbs, then realized I was actually making halbs in a real rated game, and so just resigned.

haha halb OP

fei123456 · Post by **fei123456** » 22 Sep 2015, 05:07

forgrin wrote:Late colonial they are beasts, especially good at breaking the musk-huss stalemate as they wreck huss and don''t cut into your low amount of gold from GP at least.

it doesnt have bonus to cav in age 2.

Einfein · Post by **Einfein** » 22 Sep 2015, 05:54

Cheyenne Lancers are an awesome unit. When I'm on GP I try to use them if I can get the tech. They have a huge advantage in traditional fights where you use them to hunt light infantry, but they will cut through enemy cav as well. One of the better native units for sure.

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