What is the best counter for cuirassier?

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What is the best counter for cuirassier?

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I have been having lots of problems with these units in treaty games and wanted to know the best counter.
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What is the best counter for cuirassier?

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Only gendarme should be easily countered by ranged cav with a meatshield of musketeers in front of it. Best unit combo would be dopp/war wagon I guess but once the french player mixes in skirms it's gg anyways. That (with many other reasons) is why french are the best treaty civ and should be banned in most games (together with china or japanese).
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japan ashigaru musks with all upgrades along with flaming arrows should work fine against gendarme + skirms. Mix in some naginata riders if he doesn't make anti cav...
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probably doppel/warwagons because ashis are less faster than cuir. If he raids your ashis are too slow to move and your eco is gone. Jinetes with age IV card are op though vs cuir.
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But that is also the reason why most people say "no OP" when they play treaty, which bans all of those civs that win by only massing one unit all time.
And imo if you are Jap, you should use Samurai and Yabusame to catch raids, although that uses a huge amount of pop.
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lukasl99 wrote:Only gendarme should be easily countered by ranged cav with a meatshield of musketeers in front of it. Best unit combo would be dopp/war wagon I guess but once the french player mixes in skirms it''s gg anyways. That (with many other reasons) is why french are the best treaty civ and should be banned in most games (together with china or japanese).
You really don''t wanna use musketeers with the most civs.
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You want to use them as a meathsield vs gends tho. Backed up by goons. Port musks are not bad either.
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How about don't play treaty?
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I much rather have melee inf as a meatshield. Ports don't need many musks anyways, since their goons are so OP.
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edeholland wrote:
lukasl99 wrote:Only gendarme should be easily countered by ranged cav with a meatshield of musketeers in front of it. Best unit combo would be dopp/war wagon I guess but once the french player mixes in skirms its gg anyways. That (with many other reasons) is why french are the best treaty civ and should be banned in most games (together with china or japanese).
You really dont wanna use musketeers with the most civs.
You do with Brits, Ottos, Ports (situational) and Russians. Also Halbediers are less effective vs cav than musk (less melee resistance, lower damage output vs cav, no range and more expensive).
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edeholland wrote:I much rather have melee inf as a meatshield. Ports don''t need many musks anyways, since their goons are so OP.
Couldnt you also use other Cav (Hussar, Uhlans, etc.) as a meatshield, although Uhlans might be a bit weak. I tend to do that a lot, since the damage out put is also not the worst.
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samurais?
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in treaty gendarme dont lose at all. They are the best late game unit in the game. Obviously if you make appropriate counters you can do okay, but mixed with skirms (voltz +40% indus upgrade) you really cant do anything in treaty.

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