Smackdown Analysis

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Smackdown Analysis

Post by forgrin »

@zutazuta, would you mind looking at a Fanpatch replay for me? Got some hype civs (bringing out the new Ports, my main) vs China. I resign in the end, but it's very close/back and forth with me trying to break out of a contain. I'm pr 17 (up from 14 in the last one) and my opponent, ChinaBrooken (adequate name) is pr19. For whatever reason he doesn't show up on ladders...?
I get caught off guard by the initial 7steppe shipment raid, probably could have done better thwarting those.

A few specific questions:
-What are the times I probably should have pushed out? I've looked at the replay myself and think there definitely are a few opportunities I missed.
-Should I have tried to spare 5 huss to raid him, and relied more on my TCs for defense in the middle of the game?
-I was specifically trying to practice land, so I used a land deck, but I probably should have taken water :P especially when I started to stack wood near the end.


PS I'm dumb and I just realised I totally forgot to scout the top coin mine :/ mb
Anyways, here it is. Thanks in advance :)
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[EP1 SP] ChinaBrooken[CH] vs Forgrin[PT] - ESOC Hudson Bay.age3yrec
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ESOC Hudson Bay
ESOC Hudson Bay
Rules: Supremacy (1v1)
Version: ESOC Patch 1.0
Length: 27 minutes
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Post by Wuangaga »

Hey, i got an interesting game with me playing Iroquois against a captain playing Spain. Was a pretty close game and i lost it in the end. Would be great if you could spot some mistakes for me and look what actually lost me the game.

[EP1 SP] Wuangaga[IR] vs Occult[SP] - ESOC Baja California.age3yrec
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ESOC Baja California
ESOC Baja California
Rules: Supremacy (1v1)
Version: ESOC Patch 1.0
Length: 17 minutes
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Post by deleted_user0 »

What could we have done better? Thank you zuta! please consider this rec!
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[EP1 SP] Armada89[FR] vs _Riot[IR] - ESOC Cascade Range.age3yrec
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ESOC Cascade Range
ESOC Cascade Range
Rules: Supremacy (1v1)
Version: ESOC Patch 1.0
Length: 17 minutes
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Post by lordraphael »

umeu wrote:What could we have done better? Thank you zuta! please consider this rec!

well played umeu :)
breeze wrote: they cant even guess how much f***ing piece of stupid retarded they look they are trying to give lesson to people who are over pr35 and know the best mu. im pretty sure that we need a page that only pr30+ post and then we could have a nice discussins.
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:lol:
umeu wrote:What could we have done better? Thank you zuta! please consider this rec!

Who won?
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lordraphael wrote:
umeu wrote:What could we have done better? Thank you zuta! please consider this rec!

well played umeu :)


haha ye i thought u would like this rec, it was won in oldschool rapha fashion, pull the boys and keep attacking!
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Post by sergyou »

this is a game i played agaisnt jerom and i would like to know what could i have done better besides tooking a fight when i was stacking res to go industrial wich was rlly rlly bad , idk if i could have won earlier or pushed sooner thanks :D

record : http://www.mediafire.com/download/1147x ... 9.age3Yrec
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umeu wrote:What could we have done better? Thank you zuta! please consider this rec!

Image

Poor Caria got Klamathe'd and vill rushed :lol:
What were aftergame excuses?
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Post by _H2O »

man this replay is just never gonna go away is it
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Zuta, I got a rec for you! Recently Samwise uploaded some games where he played as Russian vs Japan. He won all, so I copied his build and tried out myself (also vs Japan). The thing is that you ship 700w first and make your blockhouse at the time you just hit age II. I still lost and I don't know what I did wrong (apart from an earlier attack I maybe should've done). How can I improve this build into a win? (Played on FP)

(Not sure if I can watch live, but I'll surely watch the past broadcast!)
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[EP1 SP] MCJim[RU] vs indu5trious[JP] - ESOC High Plains.age3yrec
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ESOC High Plains
ESOC High Plains
Rules: Supremacy (1v1)
Version: ESOC Patch 1.0
Length: 21 minutes
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_H2O wrote:man this replay is just never gonna go away is it


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Post by sirmusket »

Hey Zuta I have a German Mirror between me and h20 on great plains, can you just tell me what to fix , I am not to caught up as to why I lost as h20 would have won either way as he is a much better player than I am but just if you could tell me what to improve e.c.t that would be great :D
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Post by Durokan »

Hey zutazuta, I have another replay for you. I played a few games on EP vs WickedCossack (pr25) the other day, and I had a few questions about it. I felt like he was certainly the stronger player. That aside, what can I do to become a better player? I would like general gameplay tips (i tried to keep the box in mind :)), but more specifically, what can I do given the current situation I was in? I felt like I was able to hold the pressure, but never push out or continue to grow my economy. What should I do to try to win this game?
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[EP1 SP] Durokan[BR] vs WickedCossack[PT] - ESOC Hudson Bay.age3yrec
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ESOC Hudson Bay
ESOC Hudson Bay
Rules: Supremacy (1v1)
Version: ESOC Patch 1.0
Length: 15 minutes
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Post by Method_man714 »

Zutazuta wrote:Thanks for the upload ovi, I'll be sure to go over your replay this weekend.

I wouldn't bother if I were you :lol:
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Hey Zuta, this is a match between me (French) and Goodspeed (Otto) on ESOC Kamchatka. Although he is a vastly superior player, I think he was trying a few new things and I felt as though I had a couple of windows of opportunity that I squandered. First, I want to know what kinds of things I can do to improve my scouting, as I made multiple incorrect assumptions about what he was doing. I expected early age 2-ish pressure, but once I saw the 3rd TP I expected him to go fort and rush for either the Manchu or the Mams in his deck. I re-macro'd around this, and then lost the first real fight quite hard despite being up in military population.

In your opinion, should I have gone straight samwise build and focused on age 2 pressure, or was it the right decision to spend my huss idling his vills while following to fortress? Also, once in fortress, what kind of composition should I look for against Cav archer+abus? Of course, any and all tips are welcomed, don't hold back on my scrubby ass :P.
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[EP1 SP] GoodSpeed[OT] vs Fire1313[FR] - ESOC Kamchatka.age3yrec
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ESOC Kamchatka
ESOC Kamchatka
Rules: Supremacy (1v1)
Version: ESOC Patch 1.0
Length: 19 minutes
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[EP1 SP] Incognoto[GE] vs Hazza54321[RU] - Patagonia.age3yrec
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Patagonia
Patagonia
Rules: Supremacy (1v1)
Version: ESOC Patch 1.0
Length: 23 minutes


Help out a scrub, wouldn't mind feedback on this one.

Basically things go OK early on, then everything goes to shit. I'm wondering what I should work on so that I don't make things go to shit.
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I just hope DE is not going to implement all of the EP changes. Right now it is a big clusterfuck.
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Fuck Hazza and his tier one civilizations!
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when did i talk about balance?

i just suck in general, i want tipps
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Garja wrote:
20 Mar 2020, 21:46
I just hope DE is not going to implement all of the EP changes. Right now it is a big clusterfuck.
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Post by gibson »

Hi zuterzuter I am very very good player but this game I'm lose me dutch him french I'm not sure what to do I can't beat goons plz tell me what to do plz thank you
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[EP1 SP] lukas2223[DU] vs Britishmusketeer[FR] - ESOC Baja California.age3yrec
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ESOC Baja California
ESOC Baja California
Rules: Supremacy (1v1)
Version: ESOC Patch 1.0
Length: 39 minutes
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iNcog wrote:
[A414A] Incognoto(Germans)-[W_T_C] Hazza54321(Russians).age3Yrec


Help out a scrub, wouldn't mind feedback on this one.

Basically things go OK early on, then everything goes to shit. I'm wondering what I should work on so that I don't make things go to shit.


Thank you for the analysis yesterday, it was actually super insightful!

You may or may not get more replays from me in the future. :D
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Garja wrote:
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I just hope DE is not going to implement all of the EP changes. Right now it is a big clusterfuck.
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zoom wrote:Fuck Hazza and his tier one civilizations!

sorry for laming
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gibson wrote:Hi zuterzuter I am very very good player but this game I'm lose me dutch him french I'm not sure what to do I can't beat goons plz tell me what to do plz thank you

Can't believe this actually got casted rofl. Full out troll vs me playing drunk ;o
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britishmusketeer wrote:
gibson wrote:Hi zuterzuter I am very very good player but this game I'm lose me dutch him french I'm not sure what to do I can't beat goons plz tell me what to do plz thank you

Can't believe this actually got casted rofl. Full out troll vs me playing drunk ;o
I was fairly confident that people would be able to tell from my post that I was trolling but I guess it was fun for people to watch
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Who's going to play next Saturday smackdown?
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Post by fishboyy »

Hi Zuta, I have a few games attached which I would appreciate your analysis on. Three are from winter group stages, and the other is a 1v1 vs King of Osmane. I was pr 20-22 when playing these games. If there are too many, please analyse game 2 and 4, before/as opposed to 3 and 1

Thanks!
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[EP1 SP] Sweethegreat[RU] vs Bananananazz[IN] - ESOC High Plains.age3yrec
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ESOC High Plains
ESOC High Plains
Rules: Supremacy (1v1)
Version: ESOC Patch 1.0
Length: 18 minutes
[RE SP] KINGofOsmane[CH] vs Sweethegreat[GE] - ESOC High Plains.age3yrec
(372.64 KiB) Downloaded 103 times
ESOC High Plains
ESOC High Plains
Rules: Supremacy (1v1)
Version: Official Patch (Legacy)
Length: 14 minutes
[EP1 SP] Sweethegreat[FR] vs almalek13[GE] - ESOC High Plains.age3yrec
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ESOC High Plains
ESOC High Plains
Rules: Supremacy (1v1)
Version: ESOC Patch 1.0
Length: 16 minutes
[EP1 SP] Sweethegreat[BR] vs almalek13[CH] - ESOC Hudson Bay.age3yrec
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ESOC Hudson Bay
ESOC Hudson Bay
Rules: Supremacy (1v1)
Version: ESOC Patch 1.0
Length: 16 minutes

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