hunter wrote:Cometk wrote:hunter wrote:Well it's good you cleared that your post is related to treaty 40 and not treaty overall, but coming back to nr20, prime of nr20 ended in 2011-2012 long before you reached your prime . . .
off the top my head i can think of tamasi and tomo_tanker as good 20 players back then, as well as masterchif (who is still active today and very clearly a top 20 player as well as colonel+ in supremacy and PR28+ in nr40). unfortunately ELO is down at the moment so i can't dig for more big names in the prime 20 scene.
but we have very few resources by which to judge the 20 players who were active back then. no youtube videos, no twitch streams, and very seldom a record game pops up. we can't see an individual's mouse control or his control group setup or his hotkey usage. we have a limited first-perspecive view with record games but it's not enough to accurately judge the full skill of a player. it's a shame it is this way, which is why more should be done to preserve aoe3s current history.
black_prince101
dark_prince
gudde900/_hadrianus_
I dont know the real acc but knight_br
musketjr
yanchan
ekinchin or something
tomo was nino/kingreglin iirc
etc
I am not saying dick is bad nr20 player or something, but these guys played at the prime of nr20 and were top at that time, dick rarely played vs these guys or didnt even play vs most of them iirc. Dick is probably top but in era when this game mode is dead and these were top at the prime time, it's not possible to make an comparison between 2 players as they are from different era and dont even play now but logic says its not fair to call dick top nr20 player lol
Unlike supremacy I would say the treaty guys got better over the past 8 years. They were so far behind on things like culv micro and just understanding the game in general. Comparing 2008-2010 treaty to now I feel it would be much harder to beat the top guys. There just are not simple tricks I can use to get advantages anymore (people weren't even making the right units).
The different Era arguemwnt is a cop out in this case.
Also serious question for people. Why did all the sup guys go play the least competitive version of treaty? NR 55 Orinoco :S. I had no idea that veni played it so much as well.