DotW: If you could change one thing

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DotW: If you could change one thing

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Discussion of the Week #1:

Going to start a topic that is thought provoking and try to do it weekly or bi-monthy. First topic is:

If you could change one thing about age of empires 3, what would it be and why?

This could be a game mechanic, balance item, map designs, etc... whatever you think that would make the game more fun or more competitive. For me personally it is the gathering system. I wish the game designers would have stuck with the aoe2 style gathering system (lures, single farms, etc...) I personally find this more interactive to play and giving a higher skill cap. I recently watched the Rise of Rajas tournament and the lure steals add such a great bad manner interaction in age 1 that age3 lacks.

Curious on others opinions.
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have the choice of map played in qs
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first time i have to agree with tit
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I think one of the best things about AoE3 is the way the homecity, consulate, firepit, wonder & politician, and trading post mechanics work. They add a lot of strategic depth to the game since they force you to make decisions where you sacrifice one kind of advantage for another. This gives you a lot of different ways to augment whatever kind of strategy you want to do, but you always have to weigh the pros and cons. Whether you send vills or units, or choose to age with a Karni Mata instead of an Agra Fort, or ally with the French instead of the British, I think these mechanics add a lot to the game.

If I could change anything about the game I would try to make these decisions less obvious by buffing/nerfing the stronger and weaker options, and I would also try to include more of this sort of thing into the game. For example, I think things like European politicians are quite bland compared to TWC/TAD options, and things like the church and livestock have a lot of potential that wasn't really put to good use.
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Aren't you guys maintaining a third-party balance patch? Why not push for those changes in that patch?

All the major game devs for the top esports titles are doing it. League, Starcraft 2, etc. So why not ESOC? :P
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Random civ selection.

I like the random QS maps honestly, or well the concept I suppose. Most of the QS maps do suck hard. But random civs random map would be really interesting to me.
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Ye aoc eco is superiot compared to aoe 3. Just raises The Skill cap by a lot. Making a succesgul boar steal while staying on top of your own eco is extremely difficult.
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WickedCossack wrote:Random civ selection.

I like the random QS maps honestly, or well the concept I suppose. Most of the QS maps do suck hard. But random civs random map would be really interesting to me.

agree to use the random civ generator while hosting a game on esoc maps
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WickedCossack wrote:Random civ selection.

Yea the most annoying thing about this is that it is actually possible to get on ep, it just needs someone to make it.
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benj89 wrote:
WickedCossack wrote:Random civ selection.

I like the random QS maps honestly, or well the concept I suppose. Most of the QS maps do suck hard. But random civs random map would be really interesting to me.

agree to use the random civ generator while hosting a game on esoc maps


Yea we did this yesterday actually and it's really fun. It's not entirely the same though, just feels it's missing some authenticity or atmosphere, not sure.
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britishmusketeer wrote:
WickedCossack wrote:Random civ selection.

Yea the most annoying thing about this is that it is actually possible to get on ep, it just needs someone to make it.

Do you know how do it? Our mods expert thought it was not possible.
Send a PM to me or Riki, then we can implement it.
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up to 4 teams allowed, like in AoC
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Reverse function when you watch a recorded game. Was that too much to ask? :D
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Change crappy p2p coding to proper server netcode
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Gichtenlord wrote:Change crappy p2p coding to proper server netcode


Can't we do this on EP ? :D
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Id increase wall price. Its too cheap.
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NekoBerk wrote:
Gichtenlord wrote:Change crappy p2p coding to proper server netcode


Can't we do this on EP ? :D

No acess to hardcode and if we had access to it then you would have to rewrite the whole netcode. Not to forget that you would need either a well located server to support players from any region or several servers, which would be quite expensive and further split the community.
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Buckethead wrote:
britishmusketeer wrote:
WickedCossack wrote:Random civ selection.

Yea the most annoying thing about this is that it is actually possible to get on ep, it just needs someone to make it.

Do you know how do it? Our mods expert thought it was not possible.
Send a PM to me or Riki, then we can implement it.

I don't know how to make it. I am commenting based on another thread where apparently icourt knew how to do it.
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A replay function that worked better (built in obs ui) and redesigning eso interface to make the experience more social and easy to use.

EDIT: What if all the functionality of ESOC/discord/twitch were built right into eso? Do you could view forums thru a web browser or directly thru the game via a forums tab right below home cities tab. And instead of those lame chat rooms they'd actually have something similar to a discord server. And whenever you play a game you could check a box right below record game called stream game, and then anyone on ESO could watch it via a live games tab.
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Decent qs maps
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deleted_user wrote:Decent qs maps

We can have that. @Rikikipu
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MP4 game recs, although it may be a little impractical
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Gichtenlord wrote:Change crappy p2p coding to proper server netcode

Which means the community is split in three groups too small to sustain competitive play.

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