What's your ideal map pool for a BO5?

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What's your ideal map pool for a BO5?

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I'm curious what the community thinks. In tournaments we try to promote map diversity and include one water map, one tp map, one non-tp map, etc. Do you think this is necessary or do you prefer a map pool to be only land tp maps?

For the record this probably won't be considered in map pools in tournaments, I'm just curious.
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I think it should definitely be a diverse map pool which does not only contain standard maps.
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My Ideal Map pools:

1. Arkansas, Bengal, Adirondacks, Pampas Sierra, Arizona

2. Manchuria, Kamchatka, Adirondacks, Cascade Range, Hudson Bay

Generally I think maps in the pool should alternate in play style and special features, i.e two water/tp/etc... maps should not be in a row.
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I'd agree, I like rather water maps, along with non-TP ones, as they bring diversity. But it's just me ^_^
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great plains
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Saguenay Hudson Bay Saguenay Hudson Bay Ceylon
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Hudson Bay, Kamchatka, Adirondacks/Mendocino/Manchuria
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Let players have a say, like they do in Starcraft. You set a map pool, each player gets to veto some maps. The maps which are left are the ones which are played on.
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^ That's basically the case now, at least from what I've read :hmm:
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3 standard tp maps for example hudson bay, kamchatka and manchuria, a non tp map like bengal/pampas and a unstandard one, however this shouldnt be for every series in a tournament
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Thar Arizona Kamchatka Manchuria Florida/Hudson Bay
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I would keep it varied. Watching someone atp and fight over them every game is predictable and boring. Plus on non tp maps we see different civ choices which adds variety. Waters maps bring variety and although i never play water maps myself, i like watching match ups on them. Overall a balanced map pool brings more variety in game play and civ choice which makes viewing far more interesting. I was watching some pk clan tourney videos the other day and its not great viewing , just because it was an otto and iro fest and so predictable and boring.
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High hunt map
water map
Tp map
No tp map
Atp map (4+ tps or 100% of route can be taken)
Low hunt map

All these elements must be present imo.
So bo3 could be

Cascade range (no tp low hunt)
Hudson bay (tp high hunt water map)
Any other atp map.

Bo5 you could make it more diverse

Pampas (no tp high hunt)
High plains (atp map)
Indonesia (no tp low hunt water map)
Manchuria (tp water map)
Any other map
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Imo atp map has to be map number one for fairness.

Id do

Mendocino (starting atp map)
Manchuria (livestock + water)
Adirondacks (standard map with not too many hunts)
Pampas sierras (low hunts no tp and some livestock)
Hudson Bay (super standard map to close it out)
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tedere12 wrote:great plains


was literally going to say that
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I like maps that have water but it's not necessary (hudson) but maps like indo should only show up once and even then only in the longer series like bo7 of bo9
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Jerom wrote:Imo atp map has to be map number one for fairness.

Id do

Mendocino (starting atp map)
Manchuria (livestock + water)
Adirondacks (standard map with not too many hunts)
Pampas sierras (low hunts no tp and some livestock)
Hudson Bay (super standard map to close it out)

no atp map and rest 100% agree.. edit: since mendocino is an awesome map i actually 100% agree ^^
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:hmm:

Kamchatka
Arizona
Baja Cali
Bengal
Hudson Bay
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Goodspeed wrote::hmm:

Kamchatka
Arizona
Baja Cali
Bengal
Hudson Bay

This map pool would be much and much better if Arizona and Kamchatka were to be swapped out. Arizona should be a spain mirror (or otherwise ports wiping the floor with some other useless civ that can't ATP) so the counterpicking system isn't functioning properly with maps like these.
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Fair enough. You can always just pick Brit though right?
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I just dont think that results in a game 2 counter pick, its kinda like the ep1.2 days where the first game was a german mirror and then the winner of that first game would have to first pick in game 2 but that was just going to be a french mirror. Now the balance and maps are more intertwined. I think on all other maps the balance is kinda good enough that every civ can be approrpiately countered.
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I mean you can counter ATP play with Brits because their boom is even better. And they can take 2 TPs so the ATP player only has 3.
Still not convinced ATP is as broken as people are saying it is. It looks strong but not uncounterable.
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ATP improves the stat of tp.
So shouldn't it increase the build points too, to balance. Say double.

Giving more time to enemy to react.
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It does already, it requires more time to build an ATP.
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Arkansas Hudson Bay Kamchatka High Plains Manchuria

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