Best card in the game?

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Best card in the game?

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What do you guys think is the best card in the game ? Id like to exclude vill shipments from this. Unit shipments are fine.You can also give one unit shipment and 1 other card if you want to. Also keep in mind the age in which a shipment can be sent. So a high impact shipment in age 2 should be rated higher than an even better shipment in age 4.

My choice would be for unit shipment :2 falconets. Personally im not a big fan of artillery in general and even if i can send them i usually choose not to, but theres no denying that it is the unit shipment that has the highest potential to swing a game and make a big impact in a battle. Ofc 2 heavys in age 4 is a much better unit shipment but since you rarely get age 4 i rate 2 falcs higher than 2 heavys.
Honorable mentions would be 9 br 13 jaegars and 7 urumis.

Regarding non unit shipments. Its boyars. This card is insane. Attack and HP for russias core units in age 2 combined in 1 card is incredible good. Russia without boyars wouldnt be worth anything. The card elevates cossacks from average cav units to very good ones and combined with other cav ups to beastly ones. I dont think theres any other card with the same impact than boyars for russia.

Honorable mentions: way of the bow and factories.

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5 mameluke is the best one i think,

for teamgames 5 manchu for sure.
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are you actually running a search for this pezet or are you just remembering everything ?
breeze wrote: they cant even guess how much f***ing piece of stupid retarded they look they are trying to give lesson to people who are over pr35 and know the best mu. im pretty sure that we need a page that only pr30+ post and then we could have a nice discussins.
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No, I remembered that particular thread, as it has 4 pages and I posted a couple of times there. :flowers:
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k btw i was mainly thinking of EP. 5 mams dont exist there
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Ok, sure, just thought I would mention it as there were some wise thoughts and suggestions in that thread, though naturally opinions may have changed since then :smile:
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gibson wrote:
jerom wrote:9 Uhlan is actually hard to judge. I dont think you should count the entire civ bonus (+3 uhlans), so then its just 6 Uhlans. Thats a pretty meh shipment for ''the best shipment in the game''.

lol you can''t say it''s just 6 uhlan because it''s not just six uhlan, it''s nine uhlan. That''s 9x150 resources is 1350 resources in a shipment. And uhlan have so high dps that popping it at the right time can be completely game changing. Anyway the best shipment in the game is definitly a German one because of their civ bonus. I would say 3sw plus two uhlan is super good too as well as 2sw

just found a golden quote from gibson. I know for sure that his views on that matter have changed drastically becasue he has argued otherwise many times in twitch chat
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10 hussars age IV as germany is insane. Probably 700w generally
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2 monitors, russian 50% infantry siege card, suvorov reforms, brit +100% siege to grens, 26 rattan cards are my candidates

2 monitors=2k resources + no need for a dock, nuff said
50% infantry siege card also affects petards and grens, nuff said
suvorov reforms=pretty good
100% siege card= 10 grens becomes 20 grens while sieging a TC or wonder, nuff said
26 rattan= wow 26 bald asian men with swords and no hard counter
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Aizamk wrote:2 monitors, russian 50% infantry siege card, suvorov reforms, brit +100% siege to grens, 26 rattan cards are my candidates

2 monitors=2k resources + no need for a dock, nuff said
50% infantry siege card also affects petards and grens, nuff said
suvorov reforms=pretty good
100% siege card= 10 grens becomes 20 grens while sieging a TC or wonder, nuff said
26 rattan= wow 26 bald asian men with swords and no hard counter

ye 26 rattan is pretty gud. However its an age 4 card :) Tho thats no hindrance for you i guess :P
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Aztec superhero card probably
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2 SW (even 3 vills is amazing)
3 SW
700w
5 cossacks
Boyars
8 skirms
4 mamelukes
Factory wagon

Oh and I guess the aztec superhero card like somppu mentioned. Honestly I dont consider 2 falcs that great, I think its often worse than 8 skirms.
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I'll repeat again: 3 fluyts for Dutch in age 3 — that's 1800 resources (0 food!), no need for a dock, either :!:
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Virginia company? It gets bonus points for being in age 1 right? @Aizamk

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Jerom wrote:2 SW (even 3 vills is amazing)
3 SW
700w
5 cossacks
Boyars
8 skirms
4 mamelukes
Factory wagon

Oh and I guess the aztec superhero card like somppu mentioned. Honestly I dont consider 2 falcs that great, I think its often worse than 8 skirms.

you think 8 skirms can swing the game like 2 falcs (possibly ) can. Also nice how you ignored this : Id like to exclude vill shipments from this.
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I think the best overall has to be 700w and 700g, both very good in a hundred situations.. but that's boring :p

urumi sometimes is useless, but it can also be absurdly strong, probably the most dangerous shipment pop in game...

Honor mentions to atp, 1200res iro crates in fortress, 2 monitors, 4 mames (still op!)..
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lordraphael wrote:
Jerom wrote:2 SW (even 3 vills is amazing)
3 SW
700w
5 cossacks
Boyars
8 skirms
4 mamelukes
Factory wagon

Oh and I guess the aztec superhero card like somppu mentioned. Honestly I dont consider 2 falcs that great, I think its often worse than 8 skirms.

you think 8 skirms can swing the game like 2 falcs (possibly ) can. Also nice how you ignored this : Id like to exclude vill shipments from this.

Oh I missed that comment, but I do honestly think 8 skirms is much better than 2 falcs. It doesnt have the same game swing potential but as a shipment its in my eyes almost strictly better.
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Best = card that would change civs % of winning if everyone had it or if the civ didn't have it.
3cdb. Pop wise it's more efficient than SW and is the reason why France can 12/10

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