Who are the best Experts?

Old Pro or New Pro?

Old Expert Players
21
33%
New Expert Players
43
67%
 
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Hi all. I Always wondered if old pros were better than the current pros. Watched many games and I prefer new pros to be honest, I think that new top players can't reach pr 45+ because there are no people enough for that, while many people in the past, used to get pr 50. I know, recorded games aren't a perfect way to judge, but they didn't seem pr 50 to me anyway.

Think well before to vote, because you won't be able to change your vote. Please, when you vote, try also to make a short/long post, to speak why you choosed that option. Yea, tell me why old/new pro are better.

Nothing to add, so vote!
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Ah, the age old question
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Goodspeed wrote:Ah, the age old question
What you voted and why ? :D
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Post by Challenger_Marco »

New pros are better because they know good refined new builds , learning becomes easier as there are a lot of records , videos , guides etc which makes them analyse the game deeply in significant amount of time. Games like SC 2 which makes your APM better , and modern technology .Well old ones are good enough to compete the new ones.New ones have more time than the old ones so that is how it is.
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If by old you mean those who were pro before but not anymore. Then i'll go with new.

If old means the people who have been pro for a long time and still are. I'll go with old.
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Well, I mean sort of naturally „new" experts have the advantages the old ones couldn't possess, like additional time, knowledge, technology improvement etc. That said, if the players from the past played today and tried to compete on the highest level, they would still probably have a very decent shot at being one of the best. That's coming from a newbie rather, though, so bear that in mind :?
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MisterKX wrote:
Goodspeed wrote:Ah, the age old question
What you voted and why ? :D
The question can't really be answered, it depends on one's interpretation. Some interpretations:
- Who would win if both sides played against each other at their prime? (the new guys)
- Which of the 2 groups has the more talented players? (the old guys)
- Which of the 2 groups understood the game better in their prime? (probably the new guys)
- Would the old experts be better if they were given a chance to put as much time into the game in the new meta as the new guys are currently? (debatable considering age)
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Goodspeed wrote:
MisterKX wrote:
Goodspeed wrote:Ah, the age old question
What you voted and why ? :D
The question can't really be answered, it depends on one's interpretation. Some interpretations:
- Who would win if both sides played against each other at their prime? (the new guys)
- Which of the 2 groups has the more talented players? (the old guys)
- Which of the 2 groups understood the game better in their prime? (probably the new guys)
- Would the old experts be better if they were given a chance to put as much time into the game in the new meta as the new guys are currently? (debatable considering age)



Basically
Who wins in 1v1 now?
Who wins in 1v1 then?
Who knows the game better?
Who is more talented/potential?
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should h2o, or lordraphael, be defined as "old player", or "new player"?
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Couprider wrote:should h2o, or lordraphael, be defined as "old player", or "new player"?
H2o is an old player and Raphael wasn't playing in in 2005-2006-2007-2008 if I am not wrong
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DaRkNiTe1698 wrote:
Couprider wrote:should h2o, or lordraphael, be defined as "old player", or "new player"?
H2o is an old player and Raphael wasn't playing in in 2005-2006-2007-2008 if I am not wrong

His account LordRaphael was made in 2007
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I feel like the old dramas just don't do it anymore. Old vs new, treaty vs sup, stuff like that just doesn't get us really going.

We need new dramas, like is H2O a dictator?
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tedere12 wrote:
DaRkNiTe1698 wrote:
Couprider wrote:should h2o, or lordraphael, be defined as "old player", or "new player"?
H2o is an old player and Raphael wasn't playing in in 2005-2006-2007-2008 if I am not wrong

His account LordRaphael was made in 2007
Oh ok, but he wasn't a top player in 2007-2008
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tedere12 wrote:
DaRkNiTe1698 wrote:
Couprider wrote:should h2o, or lordraphael, be defined as "old player", or "new player"?
H2o is an old player and Raphael wasn't playing in in 2005-2006-2007-2008 if I am not wrong

His account LordRaphael was made in 2007

My account was made in 2006 though :?
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tedere12 wrote:
DaRkNiTe1698 wrote:
Couprider wrote:should h2o, or lordraphael, be defined as "old player", or "new player"?
H2o is an old player and Raphael wasn't playing in in 2005-2006-2007-2008 if I am not wrong

His account LordRaphael was made in 2007

so rapha old player hahaha
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gh0st wrote:@r4go :uglylol:

haha. Asking old or new in a meta where 90% playing now have started in 2012-13 is no sense. I'm just agree whit h20 about his opinion about it old>new. But to be honstly @Goodspeed has given the best question. Anyway old vs new nis a stupid question. But was i'm pretty sure the meta(not the singular pro) was mcuh hard then the meta of now. Opinions ^^ let me makes moneys that is more important :P
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pecelot wrote:My account was made in 2006 though :?

2014, bitch!
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Goodspeed wrote:Ah, the age old question


It goes: Is there a god? Is there life after death? What is our purpose? Are today's aoe 3 pros better than yesterday's? Are we alone in this universe?
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Jerom wrote:I feel like the old dramas just don't do it anymore. Old vs new, treaty vs sup, stuff like that just doesn't get us really going.

We need new dramas, like is H2O a dictator?

yes and yes :flowers:
breeze wrote: they cant even guess how much f***ing piece of stupid retarded they look they are trying to give lesson to people who are over pr35 and know the best mu. im pretty sure that we need a page that only pr30+ post and then we could have a nice discussins.
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Well there is no expert staff here so the answer clearly lies with the old experts at AgeSanc
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n0el wrote:Well there is no expert staff here so the answer clearly lies with the old experts at AgeSanc

i heard the old age sanct experts were an inner circle in which no one could get into.
breeze wrote: they cant even guess how much f***ing piece of stupid retarded they look they are trying to give lesson to people who are over pr35 and know the best mu. im pretty sure that we need a page that only pr30+ post and then we could have a nice discussins.
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I think we already have a winner category here
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deleted_user wrote:
Goodspeed wrote:Ah, the age old question


It goes: Is there a god? Is there life after death? What is our purpose? Are today's aoe 3 pros better than yesterday's? Are we alone in this universe?

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