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Does anyone really like to make a blockhouse while aging to colonial or wait until you've aged and build with the 400 wood so you can gather food/coin? Building a blockhouse too fast seems to hurt your eco.

Overall does anyone know how darwin_giovanny does it? He's so OP with Russia it's ridiculous how he can just pull tons and tons of units out of nowhere and win a lost game....
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make while you age
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tedere12 wrote:make while you age

That's a lot of villager seconds on wood! It seems you have to because your opponent will always look for your forward blockhouse and react fast while your building it =/ Is that the reason?
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no, you need a forward shipment point so that the cossacks will be in base before he makes any units
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Russia does not age up very fast, has to build the blockhouse forward and blockhouses take a long time to build so you should do it in transition.
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OrangeRage wrote:Does anyone really like to make a blockhouse while aging to colonial or wait until you've aged and build with the 400 wood so you can gather food/coin? Building a blockhouse too fast seems to hurt your eco.

Overall does anyone know how darwin_giovanny does it? He's so OP with Russia it's ridiculous how he can just pull tons and tons of units out of nowhere and win a lost game....
You need the age up wood anyway. For houses, steel traps, optionally a TP.
But there are builds where you would delay it.
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Goodspeed wrote:
OrangeRage wrote:Does anyone really like to make a blockhouse while aging to colonial or wait until you've aged and build with the 400 wood so you can gather food/coin? Building a blockhouse too fast seems to hurt your eco.

Overall does anyone know how darwin_giovanny does it? He's so OP with Russia it's ridiculous how he can just pull tons and tons of units out of nowhere and win a lost game....
You need the age up wood anyway. For houses, steel traps, optionally a TP.
But there are builds where you would delay it.

I was practicing your double blockhouse build and it worked with "300 wood" and not "wood trickle" and getting a tp right away does not work for me. At the 7 min mark I do get 20-25 muskets + 5 cossack shipment and was wondering if that's ideal or not? Starting a new vill batch is delayed and not very consistent during this time because of the urgency of your timing.

I do get steel traps however and I ship the 700 coin then 5 cossack. I gather 225 wood and make sure I have 125 coin when I have aged and when I hit colonial I make the second blockhouse.
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Make musk and bh, put one hand on dick and wait for hunts to run out
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Hazza54321 wrote:Make musk and bh, put one hand on dick and wait for hunts to run out

You could get ff'ed on by OP shipment civ though
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You can always send 300w first... :?
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300w first is only better than trickle if you want to do hazzarov's OP 5-4-13 build, and even then he says trickle is better. You could do 300w first, get tp or two and age with 17 vills and ship trickle second, though that is most likely too greedy.
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Darwin_ wrote:300w first is only better than trickle if you want to do hazzarov's OP 5-4-13 build, and even then he says trickle is better. You could do 300w first, get tp or two and age with 17 vills and ship trickle second, though that is most likely too greedy.

Sending three unit cards in a row is OP?
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OrangeRage wrote:
Darwin_ wrote:300w first is only better than trickle if you want to do hazzarov's OP 5-4-13 build, and even then he says trickle is better. You could do 300w first, get tp or two and age with 17 vills and ship trickle second, though that is most likely too greedy.

Sending three unit cards in a row is OP?

Sarcasm.
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Hazza54321 wrote:Make musk and bh, put one hand on dick and wait for hunts to run out


Also try out the two hands on dick or going to toilet while camping on those hunts option for a completely new russia experience
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Darwin_ wrote:
OrangeRage wrote:
Darwin_ wrote:300w first is only better than trickle if you want to do hazzarov's OP 5-4-13 build, and even then he says trickle is better. You could do 300w first, get tp or two and age with 17 vills and ship trickle second, though that is most likely too greedy.

Sending three unit cards in a row is OP?

Sarcasm.

Its not really sarcasm right? 5-4-13 is situationally legitemate.

You get the blockhouse in transition because those things take literal ages to build.
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Sarcasm.

Its not really sarcasm right? 5-4-13 is situationally legitemate.

You get the blockhouse in transition because those things take literal ages to build.

The OP part. It is quite good in some situations for sure, but not OP most of the time.
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jesus3 wrote:
Hazza54321 wrote:Make musk and bh, put one hand on dick and wait for hunts to run out


Also try out the two hands on dick or going to toilet while camping on those hunts option for a completely new russia experience

I've heard three hands on dick is legitimate play style in some match-ups. Oh how far the meta has come...
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Darwin_ wrote:
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Its not really sarcasm right? 5-4-13 is situationally legitemate.

You get the blockhouse in transition because those things take literal ages to build.

The OP part. It is quite good in some situations for sure, but not OP most of the time.

But that doesnt make it sarcastic. if it was actually sarcasm you were using the term OP to sarcastically call the build bad.
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The OP part. It is quite good in some situations for sure, but not OP most of the time.

But that doesnt make it sarcastic. if it was actually sarcasm you were using the term OP to sarcastically call the build bad.

Was I not? I said only in some situations, in most others, I thought I was implying, it is shit.
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