Hazza54321 wrote:Zutazuta wrote:Victor_swe vs anything else
except random sergeants
corporals*
Hazza54321 wrote:Zutazuta wrote:Victor_swe vs anything else
except random sergeants
oats13 wrote:rickytickitembo wrote:Can someone give build orders? The man demanded BOs!
The thing is, I guess, that if you give a specific BO then someone can say that x beats it when the real question is what builds can best be counter-adapted to deal with any adaption, or what builds don't allow for much adaption in x MU.
Jerom wrote:10/10 xbow pike or straight ff with an organ musk timing. Also atp.
Im torn between dutch vs spain which is a very hard match up, and probably one of those match ups against a rush civ that japan just loses really badly. I dont think india vs british is that onesided, brits often get a pretty nice timing that feels hard to hold as india.
blackwidow wrote:
- port tries organs --> japan makes fa's and destroys it
pecelot wrote:Jerom wrote:10/10 xbow pike or straight ff with an organ musk timing. Also atp.
Im torn between dutch vs spain which is a very hard match up, and probably one of those match ups against a rush civ that japan just loses really badly. I dont think india vs british is that onesided, brits often get a pretty nice timing that feels hard to hold as india.
perhaps also water with heavy-water deck, spies in age 2, halbsblackwidow wrote:
- port tries organs --> japan makes fa's and destroys it
go culvs
pecelot wrote:Jerom wrote:10/10 xbow pike or straight ff with an organ musk timing. Also atp.
Im torn between dutch vs spain which is a very hard match up, and probably one of those match ups against a rush civ that japan just loses really badly. I dont think india vs british is that onesided, brits often get a pretty nice timing that feels hard to hold as india.
perhaps also water with heavy-water deck, spies in age 2, halbsblackwidow wrote:
- port tries organs --> japan makes fa's and destroys it
go culvs
yemshi wrote:pecelot wrote:Jerom wrote:10/10 xbow pike or straight ff with an organ musk timing. Also atp.
Im torn between dutch vs spain which is a very hard match up, and probably one of those match ups against a rush civ that japan just loses really badly. I dont think india vs british is that onesided, brits often get a pretty nice timing that feels hard to hold as india.
perhaps also water with heavy-water deck, spies in age 2, halbsblackwidow wrote:
- port tries organs --> japan makes fa's and destroys it
go culvs
Yabusame.
blackwidow wrote:making culvs, organs and a decent amount of anti cav is expensive, and vs a full boom japan I doubt you will have enough to somehow beat his army, I've never seen ports win vs an equally skilled japan but then I'm not really good so you might be right..
Hazza54321 wrote:Yabs are so cost inefficient
Hazza54321 wrote:yabs cost like 50f 155c or stm, die to huss, die to skirm die to musk.
pecelot wrote:Not on EP, I guess, and I don't think it's that slow, you could go for a pike-semi or something with spies to delay the Jap shrine boom into something like 2 organs/1000w/1000c or even 2 organs/1000c for culvs and more artillery.Hazza54321 wrote:yabs cost like 50f 155c or stm, die to huss, die to skirm die to musk.
Do they really die to musks with 50% RR?
kami_ryu wrote:Yabusame have almost no attack though. Against cav they're maybe the worst goon unit, against artillery they're nice. Everything else eats up Yabusame with tea at 5 pm.
pecelot wrote:kami_ryu wrote:Yabusame have almost no attack though. Against cav they're maybe the worst goon unit, against artillery they're nice. Everything else eats up Yabusame with tea at 5 pm.
I wouldn't entirely agree, they have 18 range and 50% RR with 200 HP (as much as goons'), do 28 dmg vs cav (33 of goons) and 64 to artillery (22 of goons), and on top of that they have 1.5 ROF. Ofc they cost more, but they're not that terrible once you make some — definitely better pop usage!
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