Few bigger tournies or many smaller tournies?
- Mr_Bramboy
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Few bigger tournies or many smaller tournies?
Discuss! Smaller tournies include invitationals, one day events, etc.
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Re: Few bigger tournies or many smaller tournies?
Smaller tourneys, but more often
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Re: Few bigger tournies or many smaller tournies?
3 main tournaments a year obviously, discussion starts after that
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Re: Few bigger tournies or many smaller tournies?
For $$$ just big tournies.
But would be nice to get some automated small events like oldschool SC2 TL opens where you just sign up and play on the day. (No $$$)
But would be nice to get some automated small events like oldschool SC2 TL opens where you just sign up and play on the day. (No $$$)
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Re: Few bigger tournies or many smaller tournies?
I think ESOC should only officially sponsor a small number of big tournaments, it makes it more exciting when they are big events with payouts. However it's nice to see community members setting up smaller tournaments with different rulesets to keep the content flowing.
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Re: Few bigger tournies or many smaller tournies?
Poll?
3 ASC per year, invitationals optional, though unnecessary — if 2 ASC, then smaller tournaments and invitationals as well
3 ASC per year, invitationals optional, though unnecessary — if 2 ASC, then smaller tournaments and invitationals as well
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Re: Few bigger tournies or many smaller tournies?
More treaty content :O
Re: Few bigger tournies or many smaller tournies?
Love seeing big $$$ prize pools for the big events, however if we saw some 1-day tourneys with something small like a $25 or $50 winner takes all prize pool that'd be cool too. It'd be great having a 1-day tourney because people who aren't involved in the community would see matches popping up throughout the day on the match browser and you could get a great return on viewership and people joining the community. Plus they are typically a lot easier to organise.
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Re: Few bigger tournies or many smaller tournies?
big tourneys tbh, provides more hype and anticipation, smaller tourneys no one really cares about
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Re: Few bigger tournies or many smaller tournies?
more to schedule aswell so things get delayed
Re: Few bigger tournies or many smaller tournies?
Also:
viewtopic.php?f=19&t=7078&p=160749#p160749
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pecelot wrote:I agree and would like to suggest what I already mentioned in the other topic: schedule three tournaments per year with maximal breaks possible and excluding summer, so ASC Autumn: September—early November, ASC Winter: late December/early January—early March, ASC Spring: late April/early May—late June. It's as simple as that, IMO!
Re: Few bigger tournies or many smaller tournies?
I like the bigger tourneys. Maybe a big invitational/selective tourney with like 32-64 players instead of one of the seasonal tourneys.
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Re: Few bigger tournies or many smaller tournies?
pecelot wrote:Poll?
3 ASC per year, invitationals optional, though unnecessary — if 2 ASC, then smaller tournaments and invitationals as well
Polls are meaningless. People vote with emotion, not with rationality.
Re: Few bigger tournies or many smaller tournies?
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Re: Few bigger tournies or many smaller tournies?
I think smaller. Really why even wait a month for the group stages, ro64, ro32 to be over just to watch what everyone's really looking forward to? Its all about the high level matches. By doing small tourneys you are cutting out all the crap matches.
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Re: Few bigger tournies or many smaller tournies?
big tournies like it is now, with like once a month (or more if possible) 50$ one day tournies, you sign up the day before the tourney starts and the brackets are quickly made maybe something like 8 to 16 players.
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Re: Few bigger tournies or many smaller tournies?
In my opinion everyone should have the chance to take part in a tournament. So skipping the group stages or inviting only pros isn't good. We are all part of this community.
Re: Few bigger tournies or many smaller tournies?
I don't know since I haven't been around for long but the $1500 tournament is hype as fuck. I like the idea of big tournaments. However I'm surprised at the amount, $1500 is quite a lot. I would have thought you guys would cap it at $1000 and then save money for the next event or something.
But that's none of my business. I'm just hypu'd. time to practice
But that's none of my business. I'm just hypu'd. time to practice
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Re: Few bigger tournies or many smaller tournies?
supernapoleon wrote:More treaty content :O
My next tournament will be treaty. I've been wanting one for a long time. The prize isn't going to be just a key either.
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Re: Few bigger tournies or many smaller tournies?
There is something to be said about ever type of approach.
Large open Tournaments give the whole community the chance to experience the participation in a tournament and when it gets to the RO16 and later the excitement rises as we can see the top players finally clashing. But at the same time a ton of group matches do not get played and scheduling issues come up ever round dragging out the later rounds.
Compact Invitationals usually produce high quality games for the viewers without that many scheduling issues and the participating players do not have to devote month of their lives to this. But a lot of people won't get the chance to ever compete.
In General I think smaller tournaments are much more effective and attractive to play in(see Boneng for example) and the only downside is that not everyone can participate.
So for a 12 month timeframe i would propse the following:
2 Open (i guess > PR15) Events with ~1000$ prize spanning about 2 month each
1 16 Elite player invitational with ~ 500-700$ prize spanning 2-4 weeks
4-6 Smaller invitationals/limited participant tournaments with a certain gimmick to keep things fresh (2v2, max PR34, max PR25, treaty (I hate it but there is demand for it), weird stuff like starvation, additional 1v1 Invitationals, BO1 Tournaments, Hell you can make a weekend of interjections card scenario) with ~ 100$ prize pool spanning 1-2 weeks each
Large open Tournaments give the whole community the chance to experience the participation in a tournament and when it gets to the RO16 and later the excitement rises as we can see the top players finally clashing. But at the same time a ton of group matches do not get played and scheduling issues come up ever round dragging out the later rounds.
Compact Invitationals usually produce high quality games for the viewers without that many scheduling issues and the participating players do not have to devote month of their lives to this. But a lot of people won't get the chance to ever compete.
In General I think smaller tournaments are much more effective and attractive to play in(see Boneng for example) and the only downside is that not everyone can participate.
So for a 12 month timeframe i would propse the following:
2 Open (i guess > PR15) Events with ~1000$ prize spanning about 2 month each
1 16 Elite player invitational with ~ 500-700$ prize spanning 2-4 weeks
4-6 Smaller invitationals/limited participant tournaments with a certain gimmick to keep things fresh (2v2, max PR34, max PR25, treaty (I hate it but there is demand for it), weird stuff like starvation, additional 1v1 Invitationals, BO1 Tournaments, Hell you can make a weekend of interjections card scenario) with ~ 100$ prize pool spanning 1-2 weeks each
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Re: Few bigger tournies or many smaller tournies?
I prefer fewer big tournaments. When there's lots of small events casters, organizers and players get burnt out and the overall value of the event goes down.
Big tournaments are something to get excited about!
Big tournaments are something to get excited about!
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Re: Few bigger tournies or many smaller tournies?
Bigger tourneys! That's where we have more exciting games and players than the small ones , which brings us back old pros.
Re: Few bigger tournies or many smaller tournies?
Also more player MU's.
Some of those are just meant to be hyped.
Some of those are just meant to be hyped.
Re: Few bigger tournies or many smaller tournies?
A tourney that i get money is a good tourney,
no matter it is big, or it is tiny.
no matter it is big, or it is tiny.
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