[RE]German mirror need help
[RE]German mirror need help
Don't know how to play this MU at all
Anyone give me some advice?
Anyone give me some advice?
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Re: [RE]German mirror need help
Kaiser said you make uhlan and go age 3 and ship br
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Re: [RE]German mirror need help
Lol I actually almost never cav semi in this match up, there's a lot of different ways to play it, though yeah br are a must. I'll probs detail later
LoOk_tOm wrote:I have something in particular against Kaisar (GERMANY NOOB mercenary LAMME FOREVER) And the other people (noobs) like suck kaiser ... just this ..
Re: [RE]German mirror need help
It's a hard MU for the Germans for sure.
Pay more attention to detail.
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check out H2O vs BSOP g1, MuketJr aka BadSpeed vs BSOP g1, H2O vs Mitoe
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lol you guys comment a lot without even watching the recs
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You asked for advice, I can tell you to try and play like the best of the best
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Re: [RE]German mirror need help
Too lazy to watch 2 recs, but can still say how the mu should be played
LoOk_tOm wrote:I have something in particular against Kaisar (GERMANY NOOB mercenary LAMME FOREVER) And the other people (noobs) like suck kaiser ... just this ..
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So yeah, you need to scout and adapt a lot in this match up, unlike most mirrors. An interesting feature of the ger mirror is of course dops. Having no other unit than dops to tank against other dops, and crossbows being a bit awkward and being ger's only ranged unit in age 2, dops become surprisingly good. Another thing is that uhlans have such low hp that they can't really snare dops (for mm or 8 bows traps for example).
So there's a lot of builds for ger mirrors, including dops or not, which I'm gonna list here :
- dop cav timing : 700w 700g, start with either rax or stable and add the other building to mass from 700g, and push. Can also do a later timing, and less all in, with 3 sw 700w 700g, but might be too late. Then usually try to age up
- dop start : rush your opponent with a fb rax and burn down his stuff, with 3 sw 700w, or defend from a rush with a rax in base. Add a stable from 700w, and either age up (dop semi) or play it colo with dop cav, but tbh I don't think colo dop cav should ever work in this mu. A dop cav timing might push your fb and punish you
- cav start : well same like dops start, but with in base stable. Can be punished by a dop cav timing or a dop rush, since uhlans can't mm trap the dops, but on some maps you can raid a lot to compensate.
- straight ff : with an early tp, you can do 3 sw/700g and the gold comes in time for your age up, and you'll be age 3 before 7 min if you do it well. This can punish a colonial play/a timing, but you might get idled by a cav semi/get your shit burnt by a dop semi. Without early tp you would do 3 sw 700w naked ff but tbh it's too greedy and shouldn't work in this mu.
So there's a lot of builds for ger mirrors, including dops or not, which I'm gonna list here :
- dop cav timing : 700w 700g, start with either rax or stable and add the other building to mass from 700g, and push. Can also do a later timing, and less all in, with 3 sw 700w 700g, but might be too late. Then usually try to age up
- dop start : rush your opponent with a fb rax and burn down his stuff, with 3 sw 700w, or defend from a rush with a rax in base. Add a stable from 700w, and either age up (dop semi) or play it colo with dop cav, but tbh I don't think colo dop cav should ever work in this mu. A dop cav timing might push your fb and punish you
- cav start : well same like dops start, but with in base stable. Can be punished by a dop cav timing or a dop rush, since uhlans can't mm trap the dops, but on some maps you can raid a lot to compensate.
- straight ff : with an early tp, you can do 3 sw/700g and the gold comes in time for your age up, and you'll be age 3 before 7 min if you do it well. This can punish a colonial play/a timing, but you might get idled by a cav semi/get your shit burnt by a dop semi. Without early tp you would do 3 sw 700w naked ff but tbh it's too greedy and shouldn't work in this mu.
LoOk_tOm wrote:I have something in particular against Kaisar (GERMANY NOOB mercenary LAMME FOREVER) And the other people (noobs) like suck kaiser ... just this ..
Re: [RE]German mirror need help
Perhaps it's worth going for those huge XP treasures (320 & 210 XP on GP for example) for the 3 sw 700w 700g timing so it isn't too slow.
Pay more attention to detail.
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It's never not worth going for them
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i just watch and learn
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[RE]Again two German mirror, shows dopple>>>skirm
Hope someone can really point out what I did is wrong
Game 1: it's on siberia so I think uhlan semi may be better. and in age 3 my ww+uhlan+mass skirm lose to his mass dopple
Game 2: this time I tried an age 2 uhlan dopple timing, and take a great advantage (killed TP and 3-4 houses and some units), and I try to age up myself, and lose Still, my ww+uhlan+mass skirm lose to mass dopple (he has better eco, but the military population is still close in the final battle, however dopple seems to be still IMBA in age 3?!)
Re: [RE]German mirror need help
I don't think any melee infantry unit can be called overly OP, unless it's some sort of Ronin, though still you pay a lot for them
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Re: [RE]German mirror need help
On sib you should probs just go naked ff anyway.
Doppels in age 3 suck
Doppels in age 3 suck
LoOk_tOm wrote:I have something in particular against Kaisar (GERMANY NOOB mercenary LAMME FOREVER) And the other people (noobs) like suck kaiser ... just this ..
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pecelot wrote:I don't think any melee infantry unit can be called overly OP, unless it's some sort of Ronin, though still you pay a lot for them
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