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I just played a game against germany as spain. I expected a 7 cav semi as most german players do, and I can say I was quite surprised. The game is exactly 18:00 in length and I am not really sure what went wrong in this game. (why did his pressure randomly stop, what did i do poorly, etc) I feel like I did a pretty good job of holding the pressure in this game, but what can I do better?

Edit: This should totally be in recorded games if someone wants to move it for me :/
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1) You queed first vill at 14 seconds
2) Since you already had the market anyway, I would just go for hunting dogs instead of early TP, as you see you had some idle time so you age up was late
3) Your herding could have been better, and at 6:20 you had a villager herding a hunt very far away with no protection directly between you and your enemy
4) Spain semi ff is already slow enough, on't slow it down even more by not shipping 700g
5) You engaged your rods into dopps with only vills shooting in the back, not a good idea. You should have used minutemen
6) When you saw him making dopps, you should've just made musk
7) Don't try to mass lancers vs dopps, in that situation all you needed was musk skirm with some rods to catch raids and trap
8) You need 12 pike 10 pike and 5 huss in your deck
9) Make units in transition with spain, usually rods but in this case musk woudlve been good
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What transition would you ship 700c during??
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zoom wrote:What transition would you ship 700c during??
I think he might have meant 700w
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We can only hope.
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I just meant by not shipping 700g to age up. He actually DID ship 700g in transition, but I think that might have been fine because he was running out of mines
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ovi12 wrote:1) You queed first vill at 14 seconds
2) Since you already had the market anyway, I would just go for hunting dogs instead of early TP, as you see you had some idle time so you age up was late
3) Your herding could have been better, and at 6:20 you had a villager herding a hunt very far away with no protection directly between you and your enemy
4) Spain semi ff is already slow enough, on''t slow it down even more by not shipping 700g?
5) You engaged your rods into dopps with only vills shooting in the back, not a good idea. You should have used minutemen
6) When you saw him making dopps, you should''ve just made musk
7) Don''t try to mass lancers vs dopps, in that situation all you needed was musk skirm with some rods to catch raids and trap
8) You need 12 pike 10 pike and 5 huss in your deck
9) Make units in transition with spain, usually rods but in this case musk woudlve been good

+1 (I''m not sure about 10 pikes into the deck)
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i reaaaaaally dont understand having pikemen in the deck. can anyone explain it for me? hussars is reasonable though.
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When you straight ff you will need more anticav thank just 8 rods, and it's better to ship pikemen then rods to protect falconets because there's 12 of them so they block better and they have higher siege. Usually you need at least a couple anticav shipments tho, because after you loose your falconets your composition will be kindda weak (skirm pike) so you need a unit shipment to cover your ass (10 pike or 8 rods) until you can get some goons out.
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12 are an absolute must' 10 are pretty shitty.
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play germany
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bpdscolony123 wrote:play germany
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Ain't no skills in makin' vills
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zoom wrote:12 are an absolute must' 10 are pretty shitty.



U need them in scrappy games tho, and spain games are usually scrappy
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Rather ship 5 Rodeleros than 10 Pikes.
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Zoi, ur obnoxious troll :?
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there is no way that german player has 23 rank.. nonsense.. he let u win
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drumal wrote:there is no way that german player has 23 rank.. nonsense.. he let u win

u made this thread alive again

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