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With straight ff you save the shipment. But regardless of CM or not you need to be sure he's committing to a rush otherwise he can play colo vs fortress and prob win.
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somppukunkku wrote:https://www.twitch.tv/videos/151418186

starts: 32:00

This series shows how intelligent strategies can secure easy wins and separate you from basic players using basic boring builds.
[spoiler=spoiler]2-0 for somppukunkku but I felt bad for Kaiser and made it 2-1[/spoiler]
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Jerom wrote:
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somppukunkku wrote:This series shows how intelligent strategies can secure easy wins and separate you from players using basic boring builds.


g1: somppu consulate rushes as india
g2: somppu consulate rushes as india
g3: somppu regular sepoy rushes as india

xD

Consulate rush wins in almost all games in tournament setting. I can recall it losing only once.


Its so allin, but people refuse to respond to it properly lol, its not actually hard to beat as most civs :/
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ovi12 wrote:
deleted_user wrote:Maybe. Sending CM is such an iffy thing to do though. For instance once he has recognized this and scouted it (which can be done quit early) it becomes a bit of a wasted card early on.

Though I suppose a card that deters a rush/timing can be effective even if it does nothing outwardly...

Well I think you can also send it as the second card in colonial, when India will have already made a bunch of sepoy and probably allied with brit. So if they don't push, it's probably even better. Also having CM might give you the confidence of building your 3rd TC farther out for more map control.

I've also kindda lost repsect for optimized rigid BO's after seeing Aiz send random "really bad" cards such as confucious's gift, and then not seem to be behind at all.


Ye but playing vs who and what? Theres a reason he never does this in a tournament, but only vs worse players or vs players that are unfamiliar with his style. Delete a card like that vs a player who does a solid build, youre likely to lose. Thing with confucian card is that its not a bad card if you can manage to buy some time. Aiz is master at that, and most people play too passively to punish him
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umeu wrote:
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deleted_user wrote:Maybe. Sending CM is such an iffy thing to do though. For instance once he has recognized this and scouted it (which can be done quit early) it becomes a bit of a wasted card early on.

Though I suppose a card that deters a rush/timing can be effective even if it does nothing outwardly...

Well I think you can also send it as the second card in colonial, when India will have already made a bunch of sepoy and probably allied with brit. So if they don't push, it's probably even better. Also having CM might give you the confidence of building your 3rd TC farther out for more map control.

I've also kindda lost repsect for optimized rigid BO's after seeing Aiz send random "really bad" cards such as confucious's gift, and then not seem to be behind at all.


Ye but playing vs who and what? Theres a reason he never does this in a tournament, but only vs worse players or vs players that are unfamiliar with his style. Delete a card like that vs a player who does a solid build, youre likely to lose. Thing with confucian card is that its not a bad card if you can manage to buy some time. Aiz is master at that, and most people play too passively to punish him


I guess I wasn't speaking about top top players. I'm sure if he were to do this vs raphael for example he would lose, but I think the non-standard factor just throws many people off their script (probably even lower colonels), and thus sending a weird card could pay off more than sending a better but standard card.
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umeu wrote:
Jerom wrote:
deleted_user wrote:g1: somppu consulate rushes as india
g2: somppu consulate rushes as india
g3: somppu regular sepoy rushes as india

xD

Consulate rush wins in almost all games in tournament setting. I can recall it losing only once.


Its so allin, but people refuse to respond to it properly lol, its not actually hard to beat as most civs :/

Could you give some bos for the civs?
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china beats it with tp start, and unit shipments semi ff. 700w 300xport 8bow (when they come for you at 6.30ish, you should have 8 bow just arrived or just on the way). use explorer to tank and pikes to tank in covermode while tc fire bows and musk deal dmg. then you age up with 8 skir wonder and win.

sioux can straight ff here. then they ship 5 RR and make whatever units they can, either 5 wakina from warhut if its not sieged down or more RR from the stable.

aztecs just rushes mace pike before 6.30 and kills this build.

spain does a 7 min ff and play as if they are facing a dbl rax jan rush.

germany and france can probably double rax bow and counter push as garja said.
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umeu wrote:china beats it with tp start, and unit shipments semi ff. 700w 300xport 8bow (when they come for you at 6.30ish, you should have 8 bow just arrived or just on the way). use explorer to tank and pikes to tank in covermode while tc fire bows and musk deal dmg. then you age up with 8 skir wonder and win.

if the india goes straight 5 sepoy rush this may not work. you can't gather 700w crates, and if you send 8bow first you'll get popped (you have only 30 pop limit)
i guess straight FF with 8 vils on academy can work?
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yes vs straight sepoy rush you do 8 bow first. but its easy to scout what's what. if it's the sepoy rush then you dont see a consulate.
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We just played and it's 3-1 for somppu now
you can check past broadcasts of kaiser.
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did you sepoy rush or sepoy rush?
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link? cant find it.
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umeu wrote:link? cant find it.

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/152328996

2h 1 min. 2v2, I did amazing aztec rush and kaiser had no chance because the skill gap is too huge. it was official game kaiser confirmed
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wow, great sompu show again how OP he is

nice outplay vs Kaiser there!

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Ok I just made it 4-1 for ez4somppu
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Actually you just lost 2 games to 1 in 2v2, and said you'd uninstall, and we had to switch to RE to satisfy your tantrums
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ez 4-1 you mean?
only reason to uninstall would be cause too ez bash
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I should win
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4-1 @gibson and @princeofkabul can confirm
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confuckingfirmed
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haha, nice job, that kid was so confident and I assume this games will be taken as a lesson by him/her :D
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breeze still has a mouth after he got bashed by risi haha
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Kaiserklein wrote:breeze still has a mouth after he got bashed by risi haha

You have a big month after being bashed by ez4somppu
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You got kicked 3-0 from RO16 by one of the worst players of that round :/
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Kaiserklein wrote:You got kicked 3-0 from RO16 by one of the worst players of that round :/

still beating you top kek. ez4somppu

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