Request: India Recs (especially vs Dutch, Ports and France)

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Looking for some good India Recs of wins (or near wins), preferably in the above MUs. I've tried looking for some but having trouble getting them esp versus these civs. In these MUs you eventually need to age as India and I wanna see when and how ppl do that.

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Re: Request: India Recs (especially vs Dutch, Ports and France)

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I think my first match in the autumn tournament could be what you're looking for (India vs Dutch):
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Gameplay from my point of view

I also have a match vs France from the SW event earlier this year. A bit of a cheesy elifent game, but here goes:
Rec
Gameplay from my point of view

Don't think I've ever won against ports so.. nothing to see there.
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EAGLEMUT wrote:I think my first match in the autumn tournament could be what you're looking for (India vs Dutch):
Rec
Gameplay from my point of view

I also have a match vs France from the SW event earlier this year. A bit of a cheesy elifent game, but here goes:
Rec
Gameplay from my point of view

Don't think I've ever won against ports so.. nothing to see there.


Just saw that french game, I have tried similar BOs, and it gets rekt by standard 5huss semi ff.. its just too slow. As french, the best way to lose this mu is staying colo for a long time like he did :(
i'm still looking for a viable bo vs france, atm i believe colinial timmings is the only hope. try to micro agasint the falcos and pray
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lemmings121 wrote:
EAGLEMUT wrote:I think my first match in the autumn tournament could be what you're looking for (India vs Dutch):
Rec
Gameplay from my point of view

I also have a match vs France from the SW event earlier this year. A bit of a cheesy elifent game, but here goes:
Rec
Gameplay from my point of view

Don't think I've ever won against ports so.. nothing to see there.


Just saw that french game, I have tried similar BOs, and it gets rekt by standard 5huss semi ff.. its just too slow. As french, the best way to lose this mu is staying colo for a long time like he did :(
i'm still looking for a viable bo vs france, atm i believe colinial timmings is the only hope. try to micro agasint the falcos and pray

yeah france india is hopeless, i think the redcoat timing is best
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Re: Request: India Recs (especially vs Dutch, Ports and France)

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forgrin wrote:Looking for some good India Recs of wins (or near wins), preferably in the above MUs. I've tried looking for some but having trouble getting them esp versus these civs. In these MUs you eventually need to age as India and I wanna see when and how ppl do that.

Thanks :)

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Re: Request: India Recs (especially vs Dutch, Ports and France)

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India Vs Dutch is generally a hard one for India, but I think you need to actually play greedy in base, defend any raids, and age relatively quickly 8/9 min to age 3 with a decent eco. Then make Gurkha and Zam, because Gurkha > skirm/ruyter imo, you mostly want to make them. However eventually you'll need timing with a 6 sowar shipment+ batch of 5 to counter skirms. I think you can win if you play this way, I don't see any way with playing agressive and still managing to win in the end.
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Re: Request: India Recs (especially vs Dutch, Ports and France)

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Hazza54321 wrote:
lemmings121 wrote:
EAGLEMUT wrote:I think my first match in the autumn tournament could be what you're looking for (India vs Dutch):
Rec
Gameplay from my point of view

I also have a match vs France from the SW event earlier this year. A bit of a cheesy elifent game, but here goes:
Rec
Gameplay from my point of view

Don't think I've ever won against ports so.. nothing to see there.


Just saw that french game, I have tried similar BOs, and it gets rekt by standard 5huss semi ff.. its just too slow. As french, the best way to lose this mu is staying colo for a long time like he did :(
i'm still looking for a viable bo vs france, atm i believe colinial timmings is the only hope. try to micro agasint the falcos and pray

yeah france india is hopeless, i think the redcoat timing is best

By hopeless you mean India >>> Fre on EP? I think Fre> India on re though
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yeah france india is hopeless, i think the redcoat timing is best

By hopeless you mean India >>> Fre on EP? I think Fre> India on re though

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By hopeless you mean India >>> Fre on EP? I think Fre> India on re though

france rape on all patches

Debatable on EP, sepoy/redcoat timing at 6min ish > france on ep
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H2o vs mitoe game 3 on arkansas is india vs dutch, consulate rush. I think for strong world I played india vs eaglemuts dutch in our second series game 1. H2o vs mitoe, most recebt smackdown, on manchac (dont remember game number) is india vs dutch too.
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Jerom wrote:H2o vs mitoe game 3 on arkansas is india vs dutch, consulate rush. I think for strong world I played india vs eaglemuts dutch in our second series game 1. H2o vs mitoe, most recebt smackdown, on manchac (dont remember game number) is india vs dutch too.

Ty ty, watched both the H2O ones so far. That one on Manchac was interesting, Mitoe just seems to like shipping 8 pike too much lol.
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forgrin wrote:
Jerom wrote:H2o vs mitoe game 3 on arkansas is india vs dutch, consulate rush. I think for strong world I played india vs eaglemuts dutch in our second series game 1. H2o vs mitoe, most recebt smackdown, on manchac (dont remember game number) is india vs dutch too.

Ty ty, watched both the H2O ones so far. That one on Manchac was interesting, Mitoe just seems to like shipping 8 pike too much lol.

I was going to link i game between MusketJr (Dutch) Vs H20 (India) but couldn't find it, it's pretty much what i siad, h20 defends ages, and gets a timing with 11 sowards and bunch of gurkha
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france rape on all patches

Debatable on EP, sepoy/redcoat timing at 6min ish > france on ep
minutemen, xbow, cdb and either 5 cav or 10 musk hold it np
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Debatable on EP, sepoy/redcoat timing at 6min ish > france on ep
minutemen, xbow, cdb and either 5 cav or 10 musk hold it np

Yeah, that if you get all that pefectly timed, which in some cases you might not, and i doubt xbow and with5 huss wil stop 18 sepo/6redcoat with explorers soaking damage
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french holds it no problem, then france is age 3 vs shitty eco age 2 india
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Hazza54321 wrote:french holds it no problem, then france is age 3 vs shitty eco age 2 india

well, yesh, might sound all easy but in reality it;s not, and "shitty age 2 eco" if you do standard build youl have 30+ vills with both trickles, better than your idled fuked up fre eco :P
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sirmusket wrote:
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minutemen, xbow, cdb and either 5 cav or 10 musk hold it np

Yeah, that if you get all that pefectly timed, which in some cases you might not, and i doubt xbow and with5 huss wil stop 18 sepo/6redcoat with explorers soaking damage
minutemen, xbow, cdb and either 5 cav or 10 musk hold it np
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Yeah, that if you get all that pefectly timed, which in some cases you might not, and i doubt xbow and with5 huss wil stop 18 sepo/6redcoat with explorers soaking damage
minutemen, xbow, cdb and either 5 cav or 10 musk hold it np

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The redcoat sepoy timing doesnt come at 6 min. If you slow agra and age quite fast at 4.45, the 12 sepoy rush hits around 5.30. If you age at regular time of 5.00 it hits at 5.45. The redcoat timing takes 2 cards and on non livestock maps will hit more around 7.30 with 20 sepoy (3 batches and 1 shipment) + 6 redcoat. Fre can hold that np if they know its coming
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umeu wrote:The redcoat sepoy timing doesnt come at 6 min. If you slow agra and age quite fast at 4.45, the 12 sepoy rush hits around 5.30. If you age at regular time of 5.00 it hits at 5.45. The redcoat timing takes 2 cards and on non livestock maps will hit more around 7.30 with 20 sepoy (3 batches and 1 shipment) + 6 redcoat. Fre can hold that np if they know its coming

Ye but normally you do it on the 10/10 rush which makes it come a minute earlier. Slow agra is not very good IMO, except maybe against Japan or brits.
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u cant cons rush with 1010
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4.45 age up on slow agra is super fast, i believe even impossible on most cases, unless you do something silly like ageing with 4vills...
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well it depends on tres etc. it shouldnt be impossible but ye its fast. and ofc 400w start

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