Ports water lame on indonesia

Mr_Bramboy · Post by **Mr_Bramboy** » 07 Jun 2015, 15:35

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featuring imperial jinetes and lil' bombards.

Goodspeed · Post by **Goodspeed** » 07 Jun 2015, 15:51

Worst game I've ever seen why would you post that

Good map though, much competitive very balance wow

Mr_Bramboy · Post by **Mr_Bramboy** » 07 Jun 2015, 16:02

calmyourtits wrote:Worst game I''ve ever seen why would you post that

Good map though, much competitive very balance wow

Because it''s 5 pm and I haven''t even eaten lunch yet.

divine_moon · Post by **divine_moon** » 07 Jun 2015, 16:07

literally the first shots were fired in the 15th minute (facepalm) :sleeping:

sooo long without conflict is :surprised:

Mr_Bramboy · Post by **Mr_Bramboy** » 07 Jun 2015, 16:15

divinemoon wrote:literally the first shots were fired in the 15th minute (facepalm) :sleeping:

sooo long without conflict is :surprised:

literally.

musketjr · Post by **musketjr** » 07 Jun 2015, 16:27

sounds good

Garja · Post by **Garja** » 07 Jun 2015, 16:51

calmyourtits wrote:Worst game I''ve ever seen why would you post that

Good map though, much competitive very balance wow

lol share some love

Goodspeed · Post by **Goodspeed** » 07 Jun 2015, 16:59

Not your fault, everyone wanted a water map for some reason. The map's great given the circumstances ')

Mr_Bramboy · Post by **Mr_Bramboy** » 07 Jun 2015, 17:02

This map is basically Borneo with ESOC added to the name + a boat anyways..

[Armag] diarouga · Post by **[Armag] diarouga** » 07 Jun 2015, 17:38

bramboy wrote:This map is basically Borneo with ESOC added to the name + a boat anyways..

+islands.

Marco1698 · Post by **Marco1698** » 07 Jun 2015, 20:02

This map make portos so strong and lame!

Mimsy for President · Post by **Mimsy for President** » 07 Jun 2015, 20:24

No hasty generalization please. It's just one game between 2 players below pr30 (that's my case so no disregard).

WickedCossack · Post by **WickedCossack** » 07 Jun 2015, 21:33

bramboy wrote:This map is basically Borneo with ESOC added to the name + a boat anyways..

Borneo without the map screws. That''s the important distinction. :thumbsup:

iNcog · Post by **iNcog** » 07 Jun 2015, 21:46

In which case it has become a great map since I already kind of like Borneo. If it's without map screws then we're set.

deleted_user0 · Post by **deleted_user0** » 08 Jun 2015, 12:53

Good map for a sioux mirror imo.

But tbh who cares bout ports... Brits jap or india water will completely rape them. Azzy and china too probably

[Armag] diarouga · Post by **[Armag] diarouga** » 08 Jun 2015, 15:00

umeu wrote:Good map for a sioux mirror imo.

But tbh who cares bout ports... Brits jap or india water will completely rape them. Azzy and china too probably

China is too slow to be good on water.
I''m not sure about port vs Brit. It is quite fair I guess.
Indeed jap or india rape port but it is more interesting to keep these civs for land maps.

deleted_user0 · Post by **deleted_user0** » 08 Jun 2015, 15:18

Brits rape ports more than india does

lemmings121 · Post by **lemmings121** » 08 Jun 2015, 15:32

umeu wrote:Good map for a sioux mirror imo.

But tbh who cares bout ports... Brits jap or india water will completely rape them. Azzy and china too probably

Can you please elaborate for India?

I played a few india vs ports games with Aramisses, and beating that FI/jinetes seems pretty hard even on land maps, and kinda impossible on water..

deleted_user0 · Post by **deleted_user0** » 08 Jun 2015, 15:49

India has the better navy and units. Siege eles rape port ships and buildings and artillery and then ghurka sepoy urumi take out the goons. But ye u need to appky the proper pressure to keep ports pinned and from taking map while still going greedy and age up. India has good land eco and navy so they can boom land while pressure land and sea at same time with eles and ships and be annoying with agra on shore

lemmings121 · Post by **lemmings121** » 08 Jun 2015, 16:02

umeu wrote:India has the better navy and units. Siege eles rape port ships and buildings and artillery and then ghurka sepoy urumi take out the goons. But ye u need to appky the proper pressure to keep ports pinned and from taking map while still going greedy and age up. India has good land eco and navy so they can boom land while pressure land and sea at same time with eles and ships and be annoying with agra on shore

In theory looks easy but.. if you go to agressive, you lose a lot to tc (cm) fire, and I few like if I focuos too much on water, they have good chances of getting age4, and those goons even kill gurkas, urumis/sepoy wont land a single hit on goons.. soon the turtling port will have heavy canons + jinetes, witch is pretty hard to counter even with superior eco..

Can you be more specific on how to play against this?

[Armag] diarouga · Post by **[Armag] diarouga** » 08 Jun 2015, 17:01

lemmings121 wrote:
umeu wrote:India has the better navy and units. Siege eles rape port ships and buildings and artillery and then ghurka sepoy urumi take out the goons. But ye u need to appky the proper pressure to keep ports pinned and from taking map while still going greedy and age up. India has good land eco and navy so they can boom land while pressure land and sea at same time with eles and ships and be annoying with agra on shore
In theory looks easy but.. if you go to agressive, you lose a lot to tc (cm) fire, and I few like if I focuos too much on water, they have good chances of getting age4, and those goons even kill gurkas, urumis/sepoy wont land a single hit on goons.. soon the turtling port will have heavy canons + jinetes, witch is pretty hard to counter even with superior eco..

Can you be more specific on how to play against this?

Go semi ff, then push with sepoys/gurkhas/2elephants+fregates and try to kill his docks with your land army and dont let him gather on see with your freagates.

deleted_user0 · Post by **deleted_user0** » 09 Jun 2015, 00:44

lemmings121 wrote:
umeu wrote:India has the better navy and units. Siege eles rape port ships and buildings and artillery and then ghurka sepoy urumi take out the goons. But ye u need to appky the proper pressure to keep ports pinned and from taking map while still going greedy and age up. India has good land eco and navy so they can boom land while pressure land and sea at same time with eles and ships and be annoying with agra on shore
In theory looks easy but.. if you go to agressive, you lose a lot to tc (cm) fire, and I few like if I focuos too much on water, they have good chances of getting age4, and those goons even kill gurkas, urumis/sepoy wont land a single hit on goons.. soon the turtling port will have heavy canons + jinetes, witch is pretty hard to counter even with superior eco..

Can you be more specific on how to play against this?

The mistake ppl make is that just because they have lots of vils, ports have a good eco. This isnt true till like after 20 min. India has a huge siege potential, good scaling on units and a great eco. There is simply no way port can keep up with ur mass and outeco you. Just dance in an out of tc fire to not take as many hits, or just go all in and force a mm pop or 2. The 12 sepoy are dispensable.

Also no way that mansadabar veteran or guard ghurka with brit cons and the ghurka combat card lose to port dragoons. Urumi is just there to tank and a few sepoy to stiffen the ranks vs melee or huss switch. Could also be zamb. Tbh india can play age2 timing easily as well. Just need another build for huge age2 timing.

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