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Ports water lame on indonesia

Posted: 07 Jun 2015, 15:35
by Mr_Bramboy
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featuring imperial jinetes and lil' bombards.

Ports water lame on indonesia

Posted: 07 Jun 2015, 15:51
by Goodspeed
Worst game I've ever seen why would you post that

Good map though, much competitive very balance wow

Ports water lame on indonesia

Posted: 07 Jun 2015, 16:02
by Mr_Bramboy
calmyourtits wrote:Worst game I''ve ever seen why would you post that

Good map though, much competitive very balance wow
Because it''s 5 pm and I haven''t even eaten lunch yet.

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Posted: 07 Jun 2015, 16:07
by divine_moon
literally the first shots were fired in the 15th minute (facepalm) :sleeping:

sooo long without conflict is :surprised:

Ports water lame on indonesia

Posted: 07 Jun 2015, 16:15
by Mr_Bramboy
divinemoon wrote:literally the first shots were fired in the 15th minute (facepalm) :sleeping:

sooo long without conflict is :surprised:
literally.

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Posted: 07 Jun 2015, 16:27
by musketjr
sounds good

Ports water lame on indonesia

Posted: 07 Jun 2015, 16:51
by Garja
calmyourtits wrote:Worst game I''ve ever seen why would you post that

Good map though, much competitive very balance wow
lol share some love

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Posted: 07 Jun 2015, 16:59
by Goodspeed
Not your fault, everyone wanted a water map for some reason. The map's great given the circumstances ')

Ports water lame on indonesia

Posted: 07 Jun 2015, 17:02
by Mr_Bramboy
This map is basically Borneo with ESOC added to the name + a boat anyways..

Ports water lame on indonesia

Posted: 07 Jun 2015, 17:38
by [Armag] diarouga
bramboy wrote:This map is basically Borneo with ESOC added to the name + a boat anyways..
+islands.

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Posted: 07 Jun 2015, 20:02
by Marco1698
This map make portos so strong and lame!

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Posted: 07 Jun 2015, 20:24
by Mimsy for President
No hasty generalization please. It's just one game between 2 players below pr30 (that's my case so no disregard).

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Posted: 07 Jun 2015, 21:33
by WickedCossack
bramboy wrote:This map is basically Borneo with ESOC added to the name + a boat anyways..
Borneo without the map screws. That''s the important distinction. :thumbsup:

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Posted: 07 Jun 2015, 21:46
by iNcog
In which case it has become a great map since I already kind of like Borneo. If it's without map screws then we're set.

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Posted: 08 Jun 2015, 12:53
by deleted_user0
Good map for a sioux mirror imo.

But tbh who cares bout ports... Brits jap or india water will completely rape them. Azzy and china too probably

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Posted: 08 Jun 2015, 15:00
by [Armag] diarouga
umeu wrote:Good map for a sioux mirror imo.

But tbh who cares bout ports... Brits jap or india water will completely rape them. Azzy and china too probably
China is too slow to be good on water.
I''m not sure about port vs Brit. It is quite fair I guess.
Indeed jap or india rape port but it is more interesting to keep these civs for land maps.

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Posted: 08 Jun 2015, 15:18
by deleted_user0
Brits rape ports more than india does

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Posted: 08 Jun 2015, 15:32
by lemmings121
umeu wrote:Good map for a sioux mirror imo.

But tbh who cares bout ports... Brits jap or india water will completely rape them. Azzy and china too probably

Can you please elaborate for India?

I played a few india vs ports games with Aramisses, and beating that FI/jinetes seems pretty hard even on land maps, and kinda impossible on water..

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Posted: 08 Jun 2015, 15:49
by deleted_user0
India has the better navy and units. Siege eles rape port ships and buildings and artillery and then ghurka sepoy urumi take out the goons. But ye u need to appky the proper pressure to keep ports pinned and from taking map while still going greedy and age up. India has good land eco and navy so they can boom land while pressure land and sea at same time with eles and ships and be annoying with agra on shore

Ports water lame on indonesia

Posted: 08 Jun 2015, 16:02
by lemmings121
umeu wrote:India has the better navy and units. Siege eles rape port ships and buildings and artillery and then ghurka sepoy urumi take out the goons. But ye u need to appky the proper pressure to keep ports pinned and from taking map while still going greedy and age up. India has good land eco and navy so they can boom land while pressure land and sea at same time with eles and ships and be annoying with agra on shore

In theory looks easy but.. if you go to agressive, you lose a lot to tc (cm) fire, and I few like if I focuos too much on water, they have good chances of getting age4, and those goons even kill gurkas, urumis/sepoy wont land a single hit on goons.. soon the turtling port will have heavy canons + jinetes, witch is pretty hard to counter even with superior eco..

Can you be more specific on how to play against this?

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Posted: 08 Jun 2015, 17:01
by [Armag] diarouga
lemmings121 wrote:
umeu wrote:India has the better navy and units. Siege eles rape port ships and buildings and artillery and then ghurka sepoy urumi take out the goons. But ye u need to appky the proper pressure to keep ports pinned and from taking map while still going greedy and age up. India has good land eco and navy so they can boom land while pressure land and sea at same time with eles and ships and be annoying with agra on shore
In theory looks easy but.. if you go to agressive, you lose a lot to tc (cm) fire, and I few like if I focuos too much on water, they have good chances of getting age4, and those goons even kill gurkas, urumis/sepoy wont land a single hit on goons.. soon the turtling port will have heavy canons + jinetes, witch is pretty hard to counter even with superior eco..

Can you be more specific on how to play against this?

Go semi ff, then push with sepoys/gurkhas/2elephants+fregates and try to kill his docks with your land army and dont let him gather on see with your freagates.

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Posted: 09 Jun 2015, 00:44
by deleted_user0
lemmings121 wrote:
umeu wrote:India has the better navy and units. Siege eles rape port ships and buildings and artillery and then ghurka sepoy urumi take out the goons. But ye u need to appky the proper pressure to keep ports pinned and from taking map while still going greedy and age up. India has good land eco and navy so they can boom land while pressure land and sea at same time with eles and ships and be annoying with agra on shore
In theory looks easy but.. if you go to agressive, you lose a lot to tc (cm) fire, and I few like if I focuos too much on water, they have good chances of getting age4, and those goons even kill gurkas, urumis/sepoy wont land a single hit on goons.. soon the turtling port will have heavy canons + jinetes, witch is pretty hard to counter even with superior eco..

Can you be more specific on how to play against this?



The mistake ppl make is that just because they have lots of vils, ports have a good eco. This isnt true till like after 20 min. India has a huge siege potential, good scaling on units and a great eco. There is simply no way port can keep up with ur mass and outeco you. Just dance in an out of tc fire to not take as many hits, or just go all in and force a mm pop or 2. The 12 sepoy are dispensable.

Also no way that mansadabar veteran or guard ghurka with brit cons and the ghurka combat card lose to port dragoons. Urumi is just there to tank and a few sepoy to stiffen the ranks vs melee or huss switch. Could also be zamb. Tbh india can play age2 timing easily as well. Just need another build for huge age2 timing.