Aggressive Agra out of the blue fast Age up at 1:35

[Ashvin]

Hey guys, site and I decided to play some very trolly 2v2's. Here we did an accelerated Indian 10/10 followed up by a German Renegado Rush. If you could give us some feedback on how to make this better it would be greatly appreciated!

[video]https://youtu.be/aAOc9WNdhhg[/video]

I wanted to squeeze in some market ups in this build too and make a complete batch of starting sepoy but couldn't do it, any help?

[kami_ryu]

it's like risintiger figures out how to clone himself

[Ashvin]

lol wut?

[stanleywinston]

If you do this, the other guy feeding you is much more effective than him just boosting your age up. You would have 20 sepoys by 4.20/4.40 or sth if he fed you, wood and food.

[Ashvin]

but It slows his age up drastically

[jesus3]

but you wouldnt even need his units to support you

[site]

If you do this, the other guy feeding you is much more effective than him just boosting your age up. You would have 20 sepoys by 4.20/4.40 or sth if he fed you, wood and food.

How long should I feed before aging myself?

[gibson]

but It slows his age up drastically

well the only way this could work is if he doesnt age at all

[Ashvin]

but you wouldnt even need his units to support you

But Renegados are powerful light inf type unit. And he comes just when my shipments get exhausted.

[jesus3]

by getting the tc down with more 5 sepoy batches instead of 1-3 they would have resigned earlier

[Ashvin]

but It slows his age up drastically

well the only way this could work is if he doesnt age at all

I won't be able to handle the other person who I am not pressuring at all.

[howlingwolfpaw]

u bullies!

[Jaeger]

I would say dont listen to anyone definitively, just try out their suggestions among everything else you try. Nobodys good enough at this game to really tell you whats gonna happen from an armchair.

[Ashvin]

I would say dont listen to anyone definitively, just try out their suggestions among everything else you try. Nobodys good enough at this game to really tell you whats gonna happen from an armchair.

10/10 suggestion

[howlingwolfpaw]

team 2 flail ele

[Ashvin]

We beat 1st lieuts too, but I didnt record that one.

[forgrin]

I agree with what some others are saying, if you're gonna feed a team mate it's always better to go all-in feed rather than half measure. The advantage of a feed in team is the speed, sacrificing that for some really slow army later from your teammate kinda misses the point of why you'd feed in the first place.

[howlingwolfpaw]

well in this case i think having german rebound to age up works because german can supply the uhlan (some free!) and india the powerful inf while it lacks in strong cav age 2.

it is only advantageous to keep that person behind for a limited amount of time as it is a 15% cost to tribute res so thats like a 800 bonus that degrades by 15% for each tribute and second players loses out on good cards.

I thought the timing was quite good to just send start crates, then germany is only down like 1-2 vils.

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I agree with what some others are saying, if you're gonna feed a team mate it's always better to go all-in feed rather than half measure. The advantage of a feed in team is the speed, sacrificing that for some really slow army later from your teammate kinda misses the point of why you'd feed in the first place.

Thats not the point, you idiot—the point is to make people cry!

[kami_ryu]

I agree with what some others are saying, if you're gonna feed a team mate it's always better to go all-in feed rather than half measure. The advantage of a feed in team is the speed, sacrificing that for some really slow army later from your teammate kinda misses the point of why you'd feed in the first place.

Thats not the point, you idiot—the point is to make people cry!

rude D:

[sdsanft]

Looks like you guys took my idea

Just make sure to give me all the credit for being a genius if this becomes new 2v2 meta

[forgrin]

well in this case i think having german rebound to age up works because german can supply the uhlan (some free!) and india the powerful inf while it lacks in strong cav age 2.

it is only advantageous to keep that person behind for a limited amount of time as it is a 15% cost to tribute res so thats like a 800 bonus that degrades by 15% for each tribute and second players loses out on good cards.

I thought the timing was quite good to just send start crates, then germany is only down like 1-2 vils.

I see what you're saying, but if all you're getting from the feed is a 20-30 sec faster ageup for one player, it's not worth it to feed. Feeding is inherently an all-in strategy, because as you say with the tributes it's not actually resource efficient.

If the game goes past 10 mins of course Germany will eventually have to ageup, but if it goes longer than that the feeding team is in a losing position anyways.

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I agree with what some others are saying, if you're gonna feed a team mate it's always better to go all-in feed rather than half measure. The advantage of a feed in team is the speed, sacrificing that for some really slow army later from your teammate kinda misses the point of why you'd feed in the first place.

Thats not the point, you idiot—the point is to make people cry!

rude D:

Agreed. I must be banned!

[howlingwolfpaw]

well in this case i think having german rebound to age up works because german can supply the uhlan (some free!) and india the powerful inf while it lacks in strong cav age 2.

it is only advantageous to keep that person behind for a limited amount of time as it is a 15% cost to tribute res so thats like a 800 bonus that degrades by 15% for each tribute and second players loses out on good cards.

I thought the timing was quite good to just send start crates, then germany is only down like 1-2 vils.

I see what you're saying, but if all you're getting from the feed is a 20-30 sec faster ageup for one player, it's not worth it to feed. Feeding is inherently an all-in strategy, because as you say with the tributes it's not actually resource efficient.

If the game goes past 10 mins of course Germany will eventually have to ageup, but if it goes longer than that the feeding team is in a losing position anyways.

yeah It is kind of an all in strat but if you can get the one players TC that early then It would be really hard for them to rebound since no more vils. though he was brit he could have manor boomed and then fed his aztec friend maybe they could have pulled it off. (since I assume he had no rax)

That is why I suggested team 2 flail eles for an even more surprising siege instead of 5 sepoy. Imagine 4 flails (will the other team mate get them if they are in age 1?), and 7 sepoy before you even age up.... well MM could cause a little trouble but a retreat only buys them a minute or less. so now they aged up, but shortly lose TC

[howlingwolfpaw]

another possibility to buy even more time is put 4 vils on the wonder and have the partner feed a little more for an extra 30 sec. then pop out 5 sepoy and ship 2 flails. do this on deccan or N carolina would be almost instant.