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Papist wrote:English is a stupid language with a ton of retarded spelling and grammar rules. I am thankful that it is my mother tongue; I can't imagine trying to learn it as a second language.
Compared to Dutch English is extremely consistent in almost every aspect of the language lol. There's so many irregular and retarded things in Dutch lol, English has a few irregular verbs and a spelling that can be weird some times, but it's basically a dumbified version of dutch lol.
Regarding the speaking: Weirdly enough I find that trying to imitate Gibson's voice improves my pronunciation.
Papist wrote:English is a stupid language with a ton of retarded spelling and grammar rules. I am thankful that it is my mother tongue; I can't imagine trying to learn it as a second language.
English is super ez in comparison to other languages.
It's widely considered one of the hardest. I know it's not the worst, but it can't be fun to try to learn. Personally, I think we should all learn Esperanto.
Ever heard of... Polish? It can be a lot of fun to learn, actually. Personally I would value more speaking German, but I lost the motivation for it and didn't really improve apart from the basics. I'm at I'd say A2/B1 level.
What about other languages? What are the most popular ones in your countries to learn? Is it always German and let's say French or Spanish?
BrookG wrote:I've always had this question. Don't you somehow learn Spanish? There so many spanish-speaking neighbour coutries!
I lived in the US for awhile as well and Spanish was the natural choice of a language to learn there... pretty easy to find people to speak with and if I'm in the U.S. I can use it every day really
Aside from maybe NYC(where pretty much every language is spoke ) the only language spoken in the US other than English is Spanish, which is normally only spoken in the southwest. At my high school we have Spanish, French, German and Chinese, but few students become proficient in their language simply because the only place to speak it is in class
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For some reason my English is excellent. I honestly have no idea why, I just find the language easy. Due to this, I'm having my English exams next year instead of in two years because I'm already ready for it. A few months ago I took a test to determine my general reading/writing skills to prepare for these early exams and the results showed I'm in the "middle part" of C2, which means my language is not perfect and contains minor mistakes.
I don't think school is that influential. Your determination and effort is much more important if you're really trying to learn a language. (most of) The French are an example of this. During my holidays in France I can confirm the "french hate english" stereotype is 100% correct.
For some reason my English is excellent. I honestly have no idea why, I just find the language easy. Due to this, I'm having my English exams next year instead of in two years because I'm already ready for it. A few months ago I took a test to determine my general reading/writing skills to prepare for these early exams and the results showed I'm in the "middle part" of C2, which means my language is not perfect and contains minor mistakes.
I don't think school is that influential. Your determination and effort is much more important if you're really trying to learn a language. (most of) The French are an example of this. During my holidays in France I can confirm the "french hate english" stereotype is 100% correct.
For some reason my English is excellent. I honestly have no idea why, I just find the language easy. Due to this, I'm having my English exams next year instead of in two years because I'm already ready for it. A few months ago I took a test to determine my general reading/writing skills to prepare for these early exams and the results showed I'm in the "middle part" of C2, which means my language is not perfect and contains minor mistakes.
I don't think school is that influential. Your determination and effort is much more important if you're really trying to learn a language. (most of) The French are an example of this. During my holidays in France I can confirm the "french hate english" stereotype is 100% correct.
Yeah, well, forgot about you as well Though Herom is a bad player, I suppose. Nonetheless, you're like 15 as far as I remember, so I'm really impressed. Did you spend much time watching English TV/videos, reading, speaking or just communicating in English via Internet?
For some reason my English is excellent. I honestly have no idea why, I just find the language easy. Due to this, I'm having my English exams next year instead of in two years because I'm already ready for it. A few months ago I took a test to determine my general reading/writing skills to prepare for these early exams and the results showed I'm in the "middle part" of C2, which means my language is not perfect and contains minor mistakes.
I don't think school is that influential. Your determination and effort is much more important if you're really trying to learn a language. (most of) The French are an example of this. During my holidays in France I can confirm the "french hate english" stereotype is 100% correct.
Yeah, well, forgot about you as well Though Herom is a bad player, I suppose. Nonetheless, you're like 15 as far as I remember, so I'm really impressed. Did you spend much time watching English TV/videos, reading, speaking or just communicating in English via Internet?
I'm 16 (and 4 months) now. I don't think I specifically spent a lot of time searching for English stuff. The movies, series, and of course youtube generally tends to be English in the Netherlands. Only the movie for small children get voiced over by Dutch speakers, but movies above targeted at +8 years olds tend to be English spoken with Dutch subtitles. Casting aoe3 is also a great way to improve your English so I recommend that
Also I think I had too few characters to put an a in there, or I intentionally didn't put it there for the additional effect.
Grzegorz Brzęczyszczykiewicz Szedł Sasza suchą szosą — w czasie suszy szosa sucha Stół z powyłamywanymi nogami try to pronounce that xD even my name: Przemysław Gradek
pecelot wrote:Grzegorz Brzęczyszczykiewicz Szedł Sasza suchą szosą — w czasie suszy szosa sucha Stół z powyłamywanymi nogami try to pronounce that xD even my name: Przemysław Gradek
I can Vouch for Bramboy. He is the only person I've met whose English is actually better than mine. He is a true child prodigy – to the English language what Seitz is to programming.
pecelot wrote:Grzegorz Brzęczyszczykiewicz Szedł Sasza suchą szosą — w czasie suszy szosa sucha Stół z powyłamywanymi nogami try to pronounce that xD even my name: Przemysław Gradek
As a Czech, the Polish language seems like it has very similar words, albeit with a few garbled characters and double the consonants for some reason
momuuu wrote: ↑theres no way eaglemut is truly a top player
Mr_Bramboy wrote:The movies, series, and of course youtube generally tends to be English in the Netherlands. Only the movie for small children get voiced over by Dutch speakers, but movies above targeted at +8 years olds tend to be English spoken with Dutch subtitles.
There you have it, that's the complete opposite of the Czech Republic. Everything here is voiced over by Czech speakers. You just don't ever encounter English in the wild, unless you specifically seek it.
momuuu wrote: ↑theres no way eaglemut is truly a top player
zoom wrote:I can Vouch for Bramboy. He is the only person I've met whose English is actually better than mine. He is a true child prodigy – to the English language what Seitz is to programming.
Yet, if test results are worth anything, my English is apperantly supposed to be better haha. How did your english get so good though?
zoom wrote:I can Vouch for Bramboy. He is the only person I've met whose English is actually better than mine. He is a true child prodigy – to the English language what Seitz is to programming.
Yet, if test results are worth anything, my English is apperantly supposed to be better haha. How did your english get so good though?
Apparently English, supposedly...
Did Bramboy take any test you could compare with?
Also, I was joking – I have met plenty of people whose English is better than mine. I don't think I'm all that great, although I am interested in language in general and English in particular. I think that helps a lot in addition to just learning by doing.
zoom wrote:I can Vouch for Bramboy. He is the only person I've met whose English is actually better than mine. He is a true child prodigy – to the English language what Seitz is to programming.
Yet, if test results are worth anything, my English is apperantly supposed to be better haha. How did your english get so good though?
Apparently English, supposedly...
Did Bramboy take any test you could compare with?
Also, I was joking – I have met plenty of people whose English is better than mine. I don't think I'm all that great, although I am interested in language in general and English in particular. I think that helps a lot in addition to just learning by doing.
I think he said he was middle of the pack in C2. I did that same test (but official) 4 years ago I believe, when I was bram's age, and scored top of the pack of C2 (being a super tiny amount short of a C1 certificate). Bram's English is pretty good for his age though. My school had great English classes so half of the students basically did their exam a year earlier. We had English classes aimed at reaching the C2/C1 level so they basically skipped the vocabulary stuff and the grammar stuff and taught you the language by reading, speaking, listening a lot and doing this thing where you had to fill in a gapped text to learn collocations and stuff. It was a pretty efficient way to force the feeling for a language upon you in an accelerated manner. Wasn't as great as the insane amounts of English I've read, written and heard but it certainly did help more than regular English classes.
So I passed my CAE exam, being only 1 point short from C2 level, which honestly pissed me off, but I was more worried about actually passing it, as I had to pay some money for that! Anyways, I was lazy enough not to prepare almost at all. I did some exercises and mock sheets a while ago, but I mostly learned on ESOC writing longer and longer posts. It helped me dramatically, as it's just a place where English is the official language and you have to communicate well and very often with native speakers and foreigners with advanced language skills. Eventually, my score is really high, and I think it's due to my activity on ESOC. Thanks for being here, guys! Frankly, learning English in such a way is quite an exciting route, as you may exchange more and more advanced thoughts on more and more topic every day. Again, I'm gonna celebrate by launching AoE3 for the first time in 2 weeks!