Turkey's Prime Minister resigns

[Garja]

Are they really going to join the EU though?

Turkey needs to be freed. Where is the USA when you need it.

Arming the jetplanes I guess.

[Garja]

Calm down both. This could be an insteresting topic so I don't want to close the thread =/

[spanky4ever]

When it comes to Turkey politics, there is one issue I just cant understand. How can Turkey as a NATO allied, be allowed to make war on the Kurds when the Kurds is the single most important factor that has kept ISIS from being even more powerful?? At the same time NATO are supporting the Kurds To me it seems that Turkey do what ever they want (using this opertunety to hammer down the oppositions that Kurds represent) without any repercussion from USA and NATO.

[tedere12]

Erdogan feels that his reign is threatened by the "kurds".

[spanky4ever]

Erdogan feels that his reign is threatened by the "kurds".

Yeah I get that, the kurds political party almost managed to stop him from indreasing his power even more.
But how can he be allowed to make war on another(kurds) very important allied to NATO in combating ISIS. Its just absurd - and almost nobody in the media are talking about it as a major problem??

[Laurence Drake]

Erdogan feels that his reign is threatened by the "kurds".

Yeah I get that, the kurds political party almost managed to stop him from indreasing his power even more.
But how can he be allowed to make war on another(kurds) very important allied to NATO in combating ISIS. Its just absurd - and almost nobody in the media are talking about it as a major problem??

Because Trump is more important. Duh.

[Khez85]

I think NATO isn't necessarily involved in the fight with ISIL even though many of its members are. Even if NATO as an organization were involved, the individual sovereignty of the nations means that they don't necessarily have to commit to involvement.

The whole situation in Syria is incredibly messy. The Kurds in Syria and Iraq are actively being supported by the Americans as they are the most reliable ground forces in the area in the fight against ISIL. The Turkish government does not support the Kurds as they believe all the Kurds in Syria especially are in cahoots with the PKK (the Kurdish group in Turkey) who are seen as terrorists.

[Mimsy for President]

When it comes to Turkey politics, there is one issue I just cant understand. How can Turkey as a NATO allied, be allowed to make war on the Kurds when the Kurds is the single most important factor that has kept ISIS from being even more powerful?? At the same time NATO are supporting the Kurds To me it seems that Turkey do what ever they want (using this opertunety to hammer down the oppositions that Kurds represent) without any repercussion from USA and NATO.

It's a conflict of interest. NATO supports the Syrian rebels and Russia supports the Assad Regime. When Russia intervened, it mostly attacked the rebels and ISIS was a pretext. Same thing goes to Turkey with the terrorist group PKK (supported by Russia, Iran, Syria, Armenia) that claimed the bombings in Turkey. Strangely enough, Turkey got attacked after it shot down the Russian jet...

Also, Peshmerga ≠ PKK

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Are they really going to join the EU though?

Turkey needs to be freed. Where is the USA when you need it.

Arming the jetplanes I guess.

I do believe the time has come to ship Intervention.

[n0el]

Could b

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[Khez85]

Well, the situation over there is a mess, kind of almost a proxy war if you think about it; what's really concerning is the Turkish political scene which is just going to add fuel to the fire.

Yeah, explaining the conflict in Syria is difficult because of the intertwining allegiances between various groups and regional powers. Hopefully the political situation will resolve itself in Turkey but the implications of the constant necessity of security concerns likely entail that rights will continued to be curtailed by the ruling powers in the name of safety unfortunately.

[spanky4ever]

Strangely enough, Turkey got attacked after it shot down the Russian jet...

I think you are a bit off on this one: As I remember it the bomb attack from PKK was after Turkey had attacked the Kurds with military forces.

In August 2015, Amnesty International reported that the Turkish government airstrikes killed eight residents and injured at least eight others – including a child – in a flagrantly unlawful attack on the village of Zergele, in the Kandil Mountains in the Kurdistan Region of Iraq.[256]

Maybe Turkey did this bombing to provoke the "terrorist attack" - so they had all the excuse in the world to go to war with the Kurds??

The suppression of Kurds by Turkey has a very long history.

[deleted_user]

Strangely enough, Turkey got attacked after it shot down the Russian jet...

I think you are a bit off on this one: As I remember it the bomb attack from PKK was after Turkey had attacked the Kurds with military forces.

In August 2015, Amnesty International reported that the Turkish government airstrikes killed eight residents and injured at least eight others – including a child – in a flagrantly unlawful attack on the village of Zergele, in the Kandil Mountains in the Kurdistan Region of Iraq.[256]

Maybe Turkey did this bombing to provoke the "terrorist attack" - so they had all the excuse in the world to go to war with the Kurds??

The suppression of Kurds by Turkey has a very long history.

Just readed whole posts, and i think you have got some problem to understand the things, 1st. Turkey doesnt have any peoblem with kurds, %30 of kabinet is from kurds, and turkey got a brotherhood relationship with barzani, dunno why are you this pessimistic and perspective, clueless talk about a region from miles away.

[spanky4ever]

@breeze

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You are right - I live far away from the conflict sone (lucky me).
How would you describe this attack:

In August 2015, Amnesty International reported that the Turkish government airstrikes killed eight residents and injured at least eight others – including a child – in a flagrantly unlawful attack on the village of Zergele, in the Kandil Mountains in the Kurdistan Region of Iraq.[256]

If not terrorism and provocation??
And what could Turkey gain from doing it?
Please try to explain it - I would really like to hear your out?

[Kaiserklein]

The scary thing is these guys are about to join the EU.

Lol how ? They're nowhere near entering the EU, unless they change a lot of stuff in their policies

[Laurence Drake]

The scary thing is these guys are about to join the EU.

Lol how ? They're nowhere near entering the EU, unless they change a lot of stuff in their policies

Every right-wing newspaper in Britain seems to think that EU membership is imminent for Turkey.

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@breeze

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You are right - I live far away from the conflict sone (lucky me).
How would you describe this attack:

In August 2015, Amnesty International reported that the Turkish government airstrikes killed eight residents and injured at least eight others – including a child – in a flagrantly unlawful attack on the village of Zergele, in the Kandil Mountains in the Kurdistan Region of Iraq.[256]

If not terrorism and provocation??
And what could Turkey gain from doing it?
Please try to explain it - I would really like to hear your out?

Are you kidding? What happened before? Do you know what do they want from turkey, you never heard of human shields??? Also i think you can be the last version to talk about it, we know what happened to 2 million civilians during irak fight, and your point is really retard that this fight against terrorism been happening since 1980 i can understand you are just a hater and terror supporter as i can see,
Also, check it if u really want see what happened in august http://m.dw.com/tr/t%C3%BCrkiye-kuzey-i ... a-18623218

[tedere12]

Erdogan feels that his reign is threatened by the "kurds".

Yeah I get that, the kurds political party almost managed to stop him from indreasing his power even more.
But how can he be allowed to make war on another(kurds) very important allied to NATO in combating ISIS. Its just absurd - and almost nobody in the media are talking about it as a major problem??

Because turkey supports ISIS and USA's war on ISIS is a myth.

[spanky4ever]

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You are very wrong on 2 accounts: I am not a hater, and def not a supporter of terrorism from terror organizations or states. To make an argument that Kurds are using civilians as human shields is convenient, and I have problems believing it.

Background

Members of the PKK, an armed group active in Turkey, have long maintained bases in the Kandil Mountains, a mountain range in the Kurdistan Region of Iraq bordering Iran and extending into southern Turkey. There are 61 villages in the mountain range under PKK control that are inhabited by civilians who live in areas distinct from the PKK fighters, according to Mohamed Hassan, the co-chair of the Kandil Mountains municipality. He told Amnesty International that the overall population, according to a 2013 census, is about 8,000 residents.

The Turkish government airstrikes against the PKK in the Kandil Mountains began on 24 July, after an attack in Turkey blamed on the PKK. The attacks against the PKK in the Kandil Mountains and attacks by the PKK on Turkish military and police in Turkey represent the most serious breakdown in a fragile peace process between the PKK and the Turkish government that commenced in March 2013.

The airstrikes came after long running tensions escalated on 20 July when a suicide attack blamed on IS killed 32 people and injured more than 80 in the town of Suruç in the Sanlıurfa province in Turkey. Two days later, two police officers were killed in a separate attack in the province, blamed on the PKK. Following the airstrikes in Kandil, the PKK has launched a number of attacks against the military and police within Turkey.

https://www.google.no/url?sa=t&rct=j&q= ... feA4NbpsLg

When you speak of the Irak war - I can only say to you - It was a terrible mistake done by USA military and the Bush administration. I totally agree with you.

And why did the Turkey government blame PKK for the killing of 2 policeofficers. Surely the evidence points to Isis?'

Two police officers have been killed and 18 people wounded in a car bomb attack in the city of Gaziantep, in south-east Turkey.

Turkish media reported on Sunday that police had identified at least one of the attackers as Ismail Günes, who is said to have been an Isis member. His father, Süleyman Günes, has been detained for questioning.

https://www.google.no/url?sa=t&rct=j&q= ... RB4j8eTIMA

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You are very wrong on 2 accounts: I am not a hater, and def not a supporter of terrorism from terror organizations or states. To make an argument that Kurds are using civilians as human shields is convenient, and I have problems believing it.

Background

Members of the PKK, an armed group active in Turkey, have long maintained bases in the Kandil Mountains, a mountain range in the Kurdistan Region of Iraq bordering Iran and extending into southern Turkey. There are 61 villages in the mountain range under PKK control that are inhabited by civilians who live in areas distinct from the PKK fighters, according to Mohamed Hassan, the co-chair of the Kandil Mountains municipality. He told Amnesty International that the overall population, according to a 2013 census, is about 8,000 residents.

The Turkish government airstrikes against the PKK in the Kandil Mountains began on 24 July, after an attack in Turkey blamed on the PKK. The attacks against the PKK in the Kandil Mountains and attacks by the PKK on Turkish military and police in Turkey represent the most serious breakdown in a fragile peace process between the PKK and the Turkish government that commenced in March 2013.

The airstrikes came after long running tensions escalated on 20 July when a suicide attack blamed on IS killed 32 people and injured more than 80 in the town of Suruç in the Sanlıurfa province in Turkey. Two days later, two police officers were killed in a separate attack in the province, blamed on the PKK. Following the airstrikes in Kandil, the PKK has launched a number of attacks against the military and police within Turkey.

https://www.google.no/url?sa=t&rct=j&q= ... feA4NbpsLg

When you speak of the Irak war - I can only say to you - It was a terrible mistake done by USA military and the Bush administration. I totally agree with you.

And why did the Turkey government blame PKK for the killing of 2 policeofficers. Surely the evidence points to Isis?'

Two police officers have been killed and 18 people wounded in a car bomb attack in the city of Gaziantep, in south-east Turkey.

Turkish media reported on Sunday that police had identified at least one of the attackers as Ismail Günes, who is said to have been an Isis member. His father, Süleyman Günes, has been detained for questioning.

https://www.google.no/url?sa=t&rct=j&q= ... RB4j8eTIMA

As i said turks doesnt have problem with kurds, its just eu contries's card that is used against turkey. Turkey fighting against terrorism thats a fact.

[tedere12]

http://en.hayernaysor.am/%D5%A9%D5%B8%D ... %B8%D6%82/
another fact

[deleted_user]

You are too dumb to understand , Do you notice i stopped talking to you?

[enjoy2play]

Sackdoof, feige und verklemmt,
ist Erdogan der Präsident.

Sein Gelöt stinkt schlimm nach Döner,
selbst ein Schweinepfurz riecht schöner.

Er ist der Mann der Mädchen schlägt,
und dabei Gummimasken trägt.

Am liebsten mag er Ziegen ficken,
und Minderheiten unterdrücken,

Kurden treten, Christen hauen,
und dabei Kinderpornos schauen.

Und selbst Abends heißt statt schlafen,
Fellatio mit hundert Schafen.

Ja, Erdogan ist voll und ganz,
ein Präsident mit kleinem Schwanz.

Jeden Türken hört man flöten,
die dumme Sau hat Schrumpelklöten,

Von Ankara bis Istanbul,
weiß jeder, dieser Mann ist schwul,

Pervers, verlaust und zoophil
Recep Fritzl Priklopil.

Sein Kopf so leer, wie seine Eier,
der Star auf jeder Gangbang-Feier.

Bis der Schwanz beim pinkeln brennt,
das ist Recep Erdogan, der türkische Präsident.

[lordraphael]

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You are very wrong on 2 accounts: I am not a hater, and def not a supporter of terrorism from terror organizations or states. To make an argument that Kurds are using civilians as human shields is convenient, and I have problems believing it.

Background

Members of the PKK, an armed group active in Turkey, have long maintained bases in the Kandil Mountains, a mountain range in the Kurdistan Region of Iraq bordering Iran and extending into southern Turkey. There are 61 villages in the mountain range under PKK control that are inhabited by civilians who live in areas distinct from the PKK fighters, according to Mohamed Hassan, the co-chair of the Kandil Mountains municipality. He told Amnesty International that the overall population, according to a 2013 census, is about 8,000 residents.

The Turkish government airstrikes against the PKK in the Kandil Mountains began on 24 July, after an attack in Turkey blamed on the PKK. The attacks against the PKK in the Kandil Mountains and attacks by the PKK on Turkish military and police in Turkey represent the most serious breakdown in a fragile peace process between the PKK and the Turkish government that commenced in March 2013.

The airstrikes came after long running tensions escalated on 20 July when a suicide attack blamed on IS killed 32 people and injured more than 80 in the town of Suruç in the Sanlıurfa province in Turkey. Two days later, two police officers were killed in a separate attack in the province, blamed on the PKK. Following the airstrikes in Kandil, the PKK has launched a number of attacks against the military and police within Turkey.

https://www.google.no/url?sa=t&rct=j&q= ... feA4NbpsLg

When you speak of the Irak war - I can only say to you - It was a terrible mistake done by USA military and the Bush administration. I totally agree with you.

And why did the Turkey government blame PKK for the killing of 2 policeofficers. Surely the evidence points to Isis?'

Two police officers have been killed and 18 people wounded in a car bomb attack in the city of Gaziantep, in south-east Turkey.

Turkish media reported on Sunday that police had identified at least one of the attackers as Ismail Günes, who is said to have been an Isis member. His father, Süleyman Günes, has been detained for questioning.

https://www.google.no/url?sa=t&rct=j&q= ... RB4j8eTIMA

to answer your question: Erdogan uses the "terror " argument to further undermining the democratic system while bringing the majority of people in line with his policy. Fear has always been the most persuading argument for demagogues and autocrats