gibson wrote:I think that I'm getting close to a point where I'm literally physically incapable of reading a whole book, at least in a reasonable amount of time
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gibson wrote:I think that I'm getting close to a point where I'm literally physically incapable of reading a whole book, at least in a reasonable amount of time
iNcog wrote:mah, the discussion has ended. rip
iwillspankyou wrote:Marxism is a critique of capitalism, and as far as I can see, it has never been put to life in a big scale in any countries - YET. I am talking about the bottom up empowerment of the workers - that the workers own the business as a cooperative. Communism is a top down system, where the bureaucrats make all the decisions as in a dictatorship. I guess the communists in China and Sovjetunion just took Marxism 3 steps to far.
Imagine that the tools, the fabrics, the big corporations being ruled by the workers - and that the workers where choosing their own management. If they are not happy with the management, they get to pick new leaders? That the wages where set by the workers, in a way that the profits of the buisness where devised more equally among them, and put in to new investment for the good of the company (and not the CEO or the stockholders). Today most stockholders have never set their food in the businesses they own.Cooperative businesses are community-owned private enterprises that combine consumers with owners, and buyers with sellers in a democratic governance structure. Cooperatives solve the general economic problem of under or over production, business uncertainty, and excessive costs. Cooperatives address market failure and fill gaps that other private businesses ignore; such as: provision of rural electricity or other utilities in sparsely populated areas, provision of affordable healthy and organic foods; and access to affordable credit and banking services, to affordable housing, to quality affordable child or elder care, to markets for culturally sensitive goods and arts.
Cooperative businesses have lower failure rates than traditional corporations and small businesses, after the first year of startup, and after 5 years in business. About 10% of cooperatives fail after the first year while 60-80% of traditional businesses fail after the first year. After 5 years, 90% of cooperatives are still in business, while only 3 - 5% of traditional businesses are still operating after 5 years.
https://www.google.no/url?sa=t&rct=j&q= ... Qsy_w7zjoA
gibson wrote:I think that I'm getting close to a point where I'm literally physically incapable of reading a whole book, at least in a reasonable amount of time
Dolan wrote:Cooperatives have been tried in Eastern Europe (Romania) during Communism and they proved to be a failure. Here's what happened:
. You are aware of the fact that USA has 100s - maybe 1000s of cooperatives?Dolan wrote:notification
iwillspankyou wrote:Good! Richard Wolff is saying that he studied in all these nr. 1 universities (in the world) and none of them was teaching Marx. But I am glad if that has changed.
I dont know to much about Marx either - but trying to learn some more, and I am finding it interesting. The worker cooperative thought is pretty facinating
lol I was thinking of USA best Universities - be badumeu wrote:notification
say:Dolan wrote:notification
But you'd still have that locally made bread, cloth, fruits, wine, oil -- just not much of the amenities of modern life.
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iwillspankyou wrote:psst:did you watch the video?
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